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Obama, Suu Kyi And The Forbidden Kiss ("grave breach of custom")
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Posted on 11/19/2012 2:07:02 PM PST by Arthurio

As Barack Obama appeared in the home of Myanmar pro-democracy activist Aung San Suu Kyi in Yangon, the U.S. president planted a platonic, but very affectionate, kiss on her cheek (to which she appeared to slightly recoil in embarrassment). This act has surprisingly elicited little or no comment in the global press thus far – quite unusual since public displays of affection represent a grave breach of custom in virtually all Asian countries.

Obama likely did not mean to offend his Burmese hosts, however, as a well-travelled man of the world, he must have known that a kiss – especially one between a man and a woman who are not married; and one delivered to the most famous woman in Southeast Asia – violates local etiquette.-snip-

With respect to Suu Kyi’s apparent ‘backing away’ from Obama’s kiss, another expert on Burma, Frederic K. Lehman, Professor Emeritus at the University of Illinois, speculated: “if, indeed, she did back away, possibly it is a personal thing with her and maybe she may have felt it was not to be done in a Burmese context-- she is, after all, a politician and sensitive to how her constituents may feel about her behavior.”

Though the kiss has elicited no diplomatic incidents, Obama did make at least one other blunder during his informal meeting with Suu Kyi.

The Associated Press reported that Obama repeatedly mispronounced her name, though Suu Kyi politely refrained from correcting him.

The president called the Nobel laureate “Aung Yan Suu Kyi,” versus the correct pronunciation: “Ahng Sahn Soo Chee.”

Nile Gardiner, a Washington-based foreign affairs analyst for the Daily Telegraph, commented: “It is rather embarrassing, as well as sad, that the leader of the free world can’t even pronounce the name of the most famous human rights activist on the planet.”

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KEYWORDS: aungsansuukyi; bho44; kiss; myanmar
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To: Arthurio

What was his thought process for even doing this? What could he think he was going to gain from this?


21 posted on 11/19/2012 2:20:42 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: easternsky

The boy did it on Purpose, not near as
stupid as he acts.

needs to distract the attention away from the HOMELAND


22 posted on 11/19/2012 2:20:42 PM PST by molson209
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To: Verginius Rufus
Any other President would take care to learn the proper protocol when visiting a foreign country--but Obama is so brilliant he doesn't need to bother with that.

He can't be bothered with attending his intelligence briefings - why should he be concerned about being briefed on proper protocol when visiting another country?

23 posted on 11/19/2012 2:24:44 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: Arthurio

I’m going to go against the grain of comments here.

When a foreign person comes to America, we are expected to go out of our way to make allowances for them and not expect them to understand or follow our customs. We’re never supposed to be offended if they follow their customs rather than ours. That’s part of being PC and not eurocentric or ethnocentric.

When an American goes overseas, we are expected to bone up in advance on local customs so we can understand and follow them. We’re supposed to be terribly embarassed if we fall back, even accidentally, into our own way of doing things. That’s part of being PC and not eurocentric or ethnocentric.

What I don’t understand is why only Europeans and particularly Americans have this standard applied. Why don’t Burmese have to learn to not be asiacentric or ethnocentric?


24 posted on 11/19/2012 2:25:10 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Arthurio

I wonder if you guys are all going the wrong way with this! Doesn’t he come from Chicago? Didn’t you see this in the Godfather?


25 posted on 11/19/2012 2:26:26 PM PST by the_Watchman
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To: alloysteel
Obama never MEANS to offend - but he goes right ahead and does it anyway.

Kinda like Caligula and his Senate? Yes I was watching the History Channel the other night. IMHO this was intentional....

26 posted on 11/19/2012 2:31:57 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: onyx

He might have done more damage to the pro-democracy movement in Burma by just visiting and then he does that??

The junta must be laughing about this!


27 posted on 11/19/2012 2:34:25 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: cquiggy

A genius who just discredited the Burmese pro-demoocracy movement in Burma.


28 posted on 11/19/2012 2:36:54 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Arthurio
I was just gonna say Barry Soetero is hot for Asian chicks until I found this picture of him and Merkel.

Must be an older woman thing.


29 posted on 11/19/2012 2:37:50 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Arthurio

IMNSHO, that kiss was demeaning to Suu Kyi. The subtext is: “You’re not a serious human rights activist and Nobel Peace prize winner; you’re just a cute little piece of fluff, and I’ll just plant one on your cheek to show that to the world”.


30 posted on 11/19/2012 2:38:43 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Sherman Logan
We’re supposed to be terribly embarassed if we fall back, even accidentally, into our own way of doing things.

Generally here in the USA men in professional situations don't go around kissing women on the cheek that they have never met before. In most circumstances that would be seen as awkward at best, and maybe an example of sexual harassment. A handshake is the normal American greeting in formal business situations.

In most situations even in social circumstances in the USA kissing some woman you've never met before is frowned upon. It is particularly a bad idea in biker bars, at rodeos, and when meeting some guy and his wife for the first time.

Perhaps the POTUS thought he was in Thailand in one of those "tourist" neighborhoods, instead of meeting a world renowned leader.

31 posted on 11/19/2012 2:40:12 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: GeronL
Part of this crap is about alpha style dominance. When you see Obama with other male politicians, he will put his hands all over them, pat them on the shoulders, and what have you. With the females, he grabs them for unwanted kisses. Here's a recent example of him doing this to Boehner:


32 posted on 11/19/2012 2:40:31 PM PST by Arthurio
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To: freeandfreezing

You are quite correct.

My comments were meant generally with regard to whether foreigners or natives should make the adjustments.

It seems Americans are the ones always expected to adjust, whether they are here or overseas.


33 posted on 11/19/2012 2:42:03 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Arthurio
Knowing how this administration runs, it may have meant something like this.
34 posted on 11/19/2012 2:43:50 PM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: Arthurio
With the females, he grabs them for unwanted kisses. Here's a recent example of him doing this to Boehner

He kissed Boehner??

35 posted on 11/19/2012 2:44:47 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: onyx

When I first saw the photo on Drudge, I thought it was really weird. After all, Obama actually lived in Indonesia. Even if his childhood experience didn’t acquaint him local custom and etiquette, the State Department country experts certainly would try to. It’s not that hard to learn about such things: every tourist guide to SE Asia advises against PDA.

Then it occurred to me. Obama knew exactly what he was doing.

Aung San Suu Kyi is a champion of liberty who opposed tyrants. Obama’s PDA was a public demonstration to put her in her place. There’s nothing more pesky to a tyrant than a genuine champion of liberty.


36 posted on 11/19/2012 2:56:06 PM PST by Skepolitic
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To: freeandfreezing
It is particularly a bad idea in biker bars, at rodeos, and when meeting some guy and his wife for the first time.

Now you tell me.

37 posted on 11/19/2012 3:03:33 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Arthurio
"Ick. His breath smells like Larry Sinclair took a bath in an ash-tray!"


38 posted on 11/19/2012 3:05:41 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: freeandfreezing
A handshake is the normal American greeting in formal business situations.

And only if the woman extends her hand first.

39 posted on 11/19/2012 3:07:32 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: Arthurio

After what he did to the Queen of England, Suu Kyi should consider herself lucky.


40 posted on 11/19/2012 3:18:53 PM PST by 762X51
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