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To: zeestephen

When did Mitt become a conservative? I know he played on tv during the primaries. All Martinez was saying is that the GOP needs to expand its base, which it does need to do. Unfortunately deporting or causing the self-deportation of 12 million people is not realistic. And demanding that it happens serves no useful purpose.


21 posted on 11/17/2012 5:07:37 PM PST by Lou Budvis
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To: Lou Budvis
"Martinez was saying is that the GOP needs to expand its base, which it does need to do."

We are, and have been, in a propaganda war. I've listened to Suzanna Martinez and wondered why all the talk about Rubio and so little about Martinez. I also agree with all US senators who, in 2008, signed Senate Res 511 agreeing that a natural born citizen is born to US citizen parents, which is true of Martinez, but not Rubio, or Obama.

Part of the Alinsky doctrine recognizes the importance of ideological division. With a voting system controlled by the left (St. Lucie county is but one of thousands of examples, and only coming to the fore because Col West is willing to fight the corruption), we must realize that votes counted by the enemy should be taken lightly. These attacks on strong conservatives are insidious, and mostly, designed to divide. The voting system is thoroughly corrupt, and completely lacking any audit trail. There are more conservatives than progressive Marxists. We must find out how to regain representation, which will require fixing our voting systems. Today our remedies are for imagined problems because, much as the public assumes that elections have meaning, the only meaning they have is in the supposed counts published by those controlling the elections, in California's case, the SEIU, in St. Lucie, by a progressive black nationalist for whom the end justifies the means.

56 posted on 11/17/2012 7:15:38 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: Lou Budvis

Re: “Demanding deportation serves no useful purpose”

Strongly disagree, Lou.

First, wages and benefits will improve, working conditions will improve, and the number of open low skill jobs will increase.

Two, the alternative is Green Cards and eventually citizenship for the illegal 12 million.

Did you know first generation Hispanics vote 80% for the Democrat Party?

By the way, did you notice my Comment #1?

61% of Hispanics voted AGAINST Gov. Martinez in 2010!

And Conservatives are supposed to take her political advice about attracting Hispanic voters?


60 posted on 11/17/2012 7:48:28 PM PST by zeestephen
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