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To: yldstrk; fwdude; Barnacle; Pelham; John Leland 1789; RitaOK

So you are SSPX or a sedevacantist? In any case, even few traditional RCs would agree with you, while the most important thing is that Scripture does not:

“He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes. “ (Proverbs 13:24)

“For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. “ (Hebrews 12:6)

No doubt as the head of a a single spouse household with superior wisdom, you can refuse to allow “rod” to ever refer to physical spanking, and can take God’s scourging to mean God also takes loves to hurt His own.

And by condemning Dobson as a lunatic narcissistic control freak, who teaches learning to yield to loving authority, and in so learning advocates principled spanking under certain conditions, coupled with explanations and prayer, and balanced by mercy, grace and affirmation, then you essentially charge God with the same, as this is Scriptural.


60 posted on 11/17/2012 8:03:41 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

“SSPX or a sedevacantist”

I would have to look those terms up, so as far as I know, I am not. Just Catholic.

So once again, believe what you want, you are undoubtedly right in your own reality, as someone I know used to say.

You know, intelligent people know that the scriptures are true on many levels, and that a shepherd uses his rod to guide, not to strike or beat and that symbolism is used again and again—a caution to the literalist............


61 posted on 11/17/2012 8:15:17 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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And here you are all piling on yldstrk because she had children that were easy to raise. That’s just plain stupid. There isn’t a literal one size fits all answer that goes in every family — temperaments DIFFER between children. And... Proverbs are generalities that are true often enough to be worthy of consideration; they are not promises or literal boxes into which the whole world can be forced.


63 posted on 11/17/2012 8:16:56 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: daniel1212
Proverbs 23:13 Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you strike him with a rod, he will not die.
79 posted on 11/17/2012 8:55:39 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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