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If seven children is a quiver-full, then we are the quiver-full types.

Evidently, we didn't frighten our children too badly by obeying the Scriptures, as the five who have now grown and left our home have all gone, by conviction and calling, into full-time Christian service. College-trained without debt. They all understand and appreciate the work ethic. Two are still at home, and the sixth is looking at marrying a minister.

Yes, a monster, I am, who raised children to understand both Biblical law, grace, and Constitutional patriotism, without giving up their rolls as God-given.

All home-schooled, nurtured, trained, and disciplined, by the grace of God.

You have stated that children need love and patience. Yes, and deliberate, personal attention, and training . . . discipline is more than spanking.

AND when the rod is necessary, no parents should have to "look over their shoulders" and wonder how many professing conservatives have bitten off and swallowed the leftists' course, and would side with state agencies just because they have gotten some idea that Biblicist Christian parents use re-enforcement rod, ball bats, lead pipes, or 2X4s as "the rod."

Many so-called conservatives today, who claim that they believe in limited government would be gleeful to see a policeman standing behind a leftist-type social worker, taking children from Christian families, and putting them in foster care (now-a-days it could be with a pair of sodomites), because they heard a child crying, or heard through the neighborhood grape-vine that the rod had been administered on a child when it was necessary.

It is necessary on children from-time-to-time.

Ministers who preach the whole counsel of God are, according to their calling, duty-bound to teach the subject of child-rearing, with the inclusion of when and how to administer the rod. We have taken churches through courses in these things in four countries. We imagine that the U.N.O. Treaty on the Rights of the Child will be supported by many so-called conservatives in the USA, who will also support the closing down of churches and detention of pastors who teach the Bible in these regards.

Here this will clarify things for you. You are in some sort of weird Christian something or other like orthodox Presbyterian or some such. I am a very Orthodox Catholic. We love our children and whaling away on them is not a plank of the true Catholic religion. Into the Catholic church have been recruited certain demonic sodomites which have done their level best to destroy the Church from within. But they can’t kill it, much as they try.

Leftist social workers I am very familiar with and as well their stupidity. Believe me though, having done that kind of legal work, the cases they are spending time on are not cases like yours, but cases of fathers videoing for sale pictures of their children, step-fathers and “boyfriends” pulverizing, burning, encapsulating in concrete the children of their girlfriends, etc. Meth parents who raise babies on needle laden floors where the only furniture in the house is a bed for the adults and cockroaches all over the mildewed refrigerator. Don’t excite yourself that they are overly concerned with you.

The people that check out whenever a child is crying? Guilty. I do, definitely. If some “dad” sees his child fall on the concrete and says “eff you” to the child, or some fat mama slaps her child because he is bored stiff following her around the walmart endlessly because she should have put him down for his nap, you darn well better believe I am going to give her some input. If some heathen with tattoos endlessly smacks her little boy in the airport, you better believe I am going to suggest to her friend she speak with her about a parenting class and getting control of her emotions. Your situation is weird to me, glad it worked out for ya.

Nope! You do not sound like a "monster". Those who are able to raise their children without ever having to use any form of corporal punishment are blessed indeed! I respect James Dobson very much and, contrary to the dirt being thrown at him for daring to suggest spanking for the "strong-willed child" as well as the defiant, top-dog-wanna-be spaniel, what he advises IS sometimes the only method that works. There are some children who come out of the womb thinking the world revolves around them and NO ONE better dare try to get them to submit to authority. And there are other children that are docile and calm, loving and obedient. A good parent better know how to deal with either type because they don't come with care labels.

Praise the Lord for parents like you who love their children enough to raise them in the nurture and admonition of the Lord and according to each's "bent". I don't doubt that a large part of the problem we have in public schools with discipline and challenges to authority stems from those who bought the liberal lie that kids can raise themselves and don't need parental guidance and discipline. Like Scripture says:

“My son, do not make light of the Lord’s discipline, and do not lose heart when he rebukes you, because the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son.”

Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as his children. For what children are not disciplined by their father? If you are not disciplined—and everyone undergoes discipline—then you are not legitimate, not true sons and daughters at all. Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of spirits and live! They disciplined us for a little while as they thought best; but God disciplines us for our good, in order that we may share in his holiness. No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace for those who have been trained by it. (Hebrews 12:4-11)