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To: fwdude

Man, you both assume and project much. I do not make any living out of anything even slightly psychologically related.

You are however glaringly unaware that prior to the appearance of Sigmund Freud there was an older line of, yes, Christian psychology. Dr. Freud literally hijacked that and secularized it, which is the basis of the travesty we see all too often today. There was also a respected line of medicine called “alienism” — not the study of space aliens, silly, but of understanding the mentally ill, with the purpose of counseling them towards better normalcy or at least better coping. It’s now known as “abnormal psychology.” And to have an abnormal, you need to have a normal. From which the following applies.

As with navigating geography, one does not need a perfect map in order to be useful. And yes, personalities and minds both normal and abnormal have been mapped, to useful purpose.

If it were up to you we’d still be chaining the insane.


127 posted on 11/19/2012 11:37:36 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Again, there is a difference between research psychology (learning about observable behaviors) and psychological counseling with the objective to "cure" a condition or behavior.

T.A. McMahon encapsulates this issue almost perfectly in his recent article The Upcoming Psychologized Generation (The Berean Call Newsletter, November 2012):

...[Christians] contradict their professing belief in biblical authority by looking elsewhere for solutions to solving life’s problems, primarily by turning to so-called authorities or “experts”—and particularly to psychologists. This is a tragic mistake because God’s Word is sufficient: “According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue” (2 Peter:1:3). The Word of God is the Manufacturer’s Handbook, with instructions for humanity regarding “all things that pertain to life and godliness.” What exactly are the “all things”? Certainly everything that pertains to or involves moral issues and anything that is sin related—either how to avoid it or how to repent of it. Clinical psychology cannot deal with sin—although most if not all of the issues for which people turn to psychotherapists are due to sin. The outcome of seeking psychotherapeutic help is always destructive for the faith of the believer for what should be obvious reasons.

Psychological counseling is an anti-biblical replacement program for the Manufacturer’s Handbook. Its essential doctrine is that self, which is declared to be innately good, is the key to solving all of life’s problems. Therefore, foundationally, it stands in direct opposition to the Scriptures, which declare that self, i.e., man, is innately sinful (Jeremiah:17:9).

Your desperate defense of clinical psychology is a tragic example of how ingrained this false "science" has become in the modern mind, even in Christian thought.

129 posted on 11/19/2012 12:30:00 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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