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Cardinal Dolan: Catholic Church will ‘not obey’ immoral HHS mandate
Life Site News ^ | November 16, 2012 | PATRICK B. CRAINE

Posted on 11/16/2012 2:51:21 PM PST by NYer

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1 posted on 11/16/2012 2:51:29 PM PST by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...

Catholic ping!


2 posted on 11/16/2012 2:52:44 PM PST by NYer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you." --Jeremiah 1:5)
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Way good for him, makes me want to convert to the Catholic faith


3 posted on 11/16/2012 2:53:07 PM PST by rovenstinez
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Yes they will. The Catholic church will crumble and do whatever Obama’s HHS says. The sorry truth is there are a lot of powerful Catholics in these organizations that support Obama - especially at the universities.


4 posted on 11/16/2012 2:55:38 PM PST by Longbow1969
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Oh good! If my bishop won’t comply, neither will I! Makes me feel less alone in my civil disobedience.


5 posted on 11/16/2012 2:56:01 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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Well, let’s see if they pack the good bishop off to the Gulag, first.


6 posted on 11/16/2012 2:57:38 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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>>Way good for him, makes me want to convert to the Catholic faith

It may come to that, if the mainline Protestant denominations surrender, one by one, to the liberal secular world. (Disclaimer: I’m a Methodist..for now.)


7 posted on 11/16/2012 3:03:07 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Too bad Cardinal Dolan is in the extreme minority in his church.


8 posted on 11/16/2012 3:03:07 PM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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About two weeks too late with the announcement. Maybe if we’re luck Obama’s early drug abuse will come back to bite him in the rear. I do not wish ill on anyone (karma is a bitch), but sometimes ...


9 posted on 11/16/2012 3:04:12 PM PST by CatOwner
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Integrity. Rare.


10 posted on 11/16/2012 3:04:26 PM PST by SC_Pete
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In my diocese a guide for Catholic voters was distributed. The advice was to vote for candidates who support minimum wage laws and “social justice.” The California proposition to overturn the death penalty was supported. Not one word was mentioned about voting against 0bama and overturning 0bamacare. The priests and bishops are too busy slamming capitalism to really fight 0bama.


11 posted on 11/16/2012 3:07:04 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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Team Obama is probably already calculating the asset value of all the property the Church owns. At the rate we’re going, they’ll be including property seizures and sales as part of their deficit reduction baseline. I exaggerate only slightly. I AM quite confident that many on the left would be delighted if the end game were divestiture of all the Catholic schools, universities, and hospitals.


12 posted on 11/16/2012 3:18:35 PM PST by sphinx
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The Bishop wants to eat his cake and still have it for later.

I don't feel the least bit of sympathy to the USSCB; its position is hypocritical and the Catholic Episcopate has done as much as any other left-wing organization over the last century to damage the United States of America.

Catholic Bishops were solidly behind the Socialist takeover of our healthcare system. The have been consistently blind to the stupidity of their own hierarchy on virtually all economic matters, and even at this very late date still refuse to support the repeal of the PPACA.

The Bishops -- and all other Christian clergymen -- need to learn this lesson, need to learn it hard, and they had better learn it soon, because time is running out:

CAPITALISM is "the preferential option for the poor" that this confused episcopate continues to blather cluelessly on about. There is NO "preferential option for the poor" except capitalism, and all other "options" mean squalor, disease, torture, oppression, and death. Those "options" will be "preferentially" visited on the poor before anyone else, because that's the way it is, if this bunch does not get their heads out of their ... miters ...

They may succeed in carving out a special exemption for themselves that allows them to pretend they've taken a moral course. But the truth of the matter is that the long-term consequences of the PPACA are a violation of fundamental human rights and human dignity across the board, and NOTHING short of its repeal is a "moral path."

13 posted on 11/16/2012 3:22:49 PM PST by FredZarguna (Nothing against Paki's. Just paraphrasing Biden. Or Hillary. Or Both.)
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To: forgotten man

You got that 100% right.


14 posted on 11/16/2012 3:23:40 PM PST by FredZarguna (Nothing against Paki's. Just paraphrasing Biden. Or Hillary. Or Both.)
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http://www.alliancedefendingfreedom.org/News/PRDetail/7667


15 posted on 11/16/2012 3:30:39 PM PST by Mercat
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Good luck with that, your Eminence...
He WON, dontchaknow know.


16 posted on 11/16/2012 3:32:20 PM PST by matginzac
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It's one person rarer than your assessment, because there isn't any on display here.

Where's the integrity? Seriously. The Bishop wants a special exemption for himself on religious grounds. I have a "Church" of my own (see my homepage) do I get to say that I don't have to pay for contraception and abortions for my employees? You bet I don't.

Please note that Bishop Integrity here does not call for repeal of 0bamacare. Please note that the USCCB does not call for the repeal of 0bamacare. Please note that most Bishops were silent about 0bamacare in the run-up to the election, and Bishop Integrity himself says they took some time off during the election, praying furiously no doubt that they'd get to keep the Socialized Medicine system they lobbied so hard for, but a new HHS Secretary would let them have their special treatment while the rest of us are screwed.

Integrity.

No.

Hypocrisy.

17 posted on 11/16/2012 3:34:49 PM PST by FredZarguna (Nothing against Paki's. Just paraphrasing Biden. Or Hillary. Or Both.)
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But allot of Catholics will religiously vote Dem.

Makes you wonder what “morality” means to those that do, doesn’t it?


18 posted on 11/16/2012 3:37:15 PM PST by R0CK3T
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To: fwdude
He shouldn't have appeared at the Al Smith Dinner alongside Obama. Obama probably insisted on being invited--but the cardinal could have stayed away. His presence had the impact of minimizing the religious freedom issue in the election.

I don't recall hearing much talk from the hierarchy on this issue the last two or three months before the election.

19 posted on 11/16/2012 3:39:42 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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The advice was to vote for candidates who support minimum wage laws and “social justice.”

It's curious--I can't seem to find the part where the servant who was entrusted with ten talents and turned them into twenty was told that he should give some of his talents to the servant who had been entrusted with one and did nothing with it. In my copy, the opposite seems to happen.

Indeed, while rich people are advised to use their riches to help others, nowhere do I recall Christ advocating for such people to have their wealth forcibly taken from them for such purposes. I do recall a number of warnings against covetousness, but unfortunately many people who call themselves Christians somehow think that it's noble to encourage those who don't build their wealth, to covet the riches of those who do.

20 posted on 11/16/2012 3:40:53 PM PST by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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