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To: KoRn

I noticed that from the trailer - Lincoln’s voice was higher which was true to definition. I got a laugh out of a critic who complained about it in a review. They always think they are so smart and elitist educated, yet they don’t know half.

The thing is, how accurate is the rest of the film? I’ve heard plenty that Lincoln was not so keen on freeing the slaves - he didn’t do it in the north, and at one point wanted to send them all back to Africa. His focus was to save the Union, not free the slaves.


10 posted on 11/16/2012 8:22:50 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: I still care; Mrs. B.S. Roberts

Consider Lincoln’s high pitched voice. Then consider the rather ugly, scraggly bearded, bad skinned, really tall, skinny politician.
NOW, consider A. Lincoln (R) in front of TV cameras during a presidential debate. Could a man who sounded like that and also looked like that win ANYTHING today with today’s American electorate and media? No way, no how.
Chris (you know) would be hospitalized in an attempt to put a stop to his uncontrollable laughing at the (R).


21 posted on 11/16/2012 9:03:10 AM PST by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views")
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To: I still care

“His focus was to save the Union, not free the slaves”

Anyone who doubts this needs to read Frederick Douglass’ speech at the 10 year memorial of Lincoln’s death. While he was grateful that Lincoln ended slavery he had no illusions about why Lincoln had done it.

Preserving the Union was the overriding issue to Lincoln and this gets lost in the modern preoccupation with race and slavery. You need only to read Lincoln’s own letter to Horace Greeley:

Executive Mansion,
Washington, August 22, 1862.

Hon. Horace Greeley:
Dear Sir.

I have just read yours of the 19th. addressed to myself through the New-York Tribune. If there be in it any statements, or assumptions of fact, which I may know to be erroneous, I do not, now and here, controvert them. If there be in it any inferences which I may believe to be falsely drawn, I do not now and here, argue against them. If there be perceptable in it an impatient and dictatorial tone, I waive it in deference to an old friend, whose heart I have always supposed to be right.

As to the policy I “seem to be pursuing” as you say, I have not meant to leave any one in doubt.

I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored; the nearer the Union will be “the Union as it was.” If there be those who would not save the Union, unless they could at the same time save slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or to destroy slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that. What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union; and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union. I shall do less whenever I shall believe what I am doing hurts the cause, and I shall do more whenever I shall believe doing more will help the cause. I shall try to correct errors when shown to be errors; and I shall adopt new views so fast as they shall appear to be true views.

I have here stated my purpose according to my view of official duty; and I intend no modification of my oft-expressed personal wish that all men every where could be free.

Yours,
A. Lincoln.


37 posted on 11/16/2012 3:27:57 PM PST by Pelham (America, 1775-2012)
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