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Obama Begins Push for New National Retirement System (Occupy Your Savings)
National Seniors Council ^

Posted on 11/15/2012 12:47:45 PM PST by Heartlander2

A recent hearing sponsored by the Treasury and Labor Departments marked the beginning of the Obama Administration’s effort to nationalize the nation’s pension system and to eliminate private retirement accounts including IRA’s and 401k plans, NSC is warning.

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalseniorscouncil.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: kissitgoodbye; obama; obamanation; retire; socialism
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To: cdcdawg
We do need to be “secure” in our later years, and there is a “social” interest in insuring that “security”, so I don’t see anything that could possibly go wrong.

And here I thought that the Death Panels were going to eliminate the need for Social Security.

41 posted on 11/15/2012 1:25:22 PM PST by SCalGal (Friends don't let friends donate to H$U$, A$PCA, or PETA.)
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To: stockpirate

I think withdrawing the finds now is a fast way to hand half of it straight over to Obama, so that’s not an option in practical terms.


42 posted on 11/15/2012 1:26:26 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Salvey

I think it’s an easy prediction. Only a blind man can’t see that there is a marxist revolution intent on confiscating everything. It has no intention to stop for anything.

But there is also a very big minority of Americans, at least 40% who are being pushed very deep into a corner. They are not looking for a fight, and keep stepping deeper into the corner. hoping to be finally left alone. But there is not much further to go into the corner. These people DO have a point beyond which they will lash out and attack their tormenters.

One side is on the attack, and the other is nearly out of ways to avoid them. We all saw this 100 times in the schoolyard. A confrontation is coming. Lord hope it’s political, but that option is now vanishing quickly due to systemic voter fraud.

When the ballot box is gone, there is only one option.


43 posted on 11/15/2012 1:26:52 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: jwalsh07

I don’t think you have much to worry about but IF they did do this there would be little you could do about it. Executive order freezing all IRAs, 401s, defined benefit plans. Work out the details after that while you (all of us) wondered why we didn’t see it coming. I do think that would be the last straw for a bunch of people who scrimped and saved over a life time for a comfortable retirement. The gauntlet would be thrown down.


44 posted on 11/15/2012 1:26:58 PM PST by Edison (I don't know what irks me more, the lying or the incompetence.)
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45 posted on 11/15/2012 1:29:39 PM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: Heartlander2

WTF is this? Social Security 2.0?!!!!


46 posted on 11/15/2012 1:29:39 PM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

You get your info from your retirement fund and you see the “government” has taken control and has divided it up among the people. Your neighbor, who’s retirement plan was a couple of scratch offs and a quick pick, will see a retirement fund for the first time in his life and that will make him happy.

So, do you shoot at the “government”? Or do you shoot at the happy neighbor?


47 posted on 11/15/2012 1:30:56 PM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: Edison

You’re correct.
Lots of bluster on here, but the reality is this stuff is 99% held in electronic accounts that could be frozen without warning.
And then what happens? Do you go over and shoot your neighbor who’s a janitor at the local federal building?


48 posted on 11/15/2012 1:30:56 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's bankruptcy: 2016)
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To: DesertRhino

1. Soap box
2. Ballot box
3. Ammo box


49 posted on 11/15/2012 1:31:29 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: DesertRhino

But an outright theft of savings ..... isn’t that what happened to SS?


50 posted on 11/15/2012 1:33:32 PM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: Heartlander2

I’ve known this is coming for years. No bullets will fly, just as they didn’t when Americans started being molested, groped, and irradiated on a daily basis, by affirmative action thugs who couldn’t even get a job at an ice cream parlor. The sheep just keep taking it, not even any civil disobedience like everyone in line sitting down at the same time.

I can’t withdraw mine unless I leave my job.

However, does this mean that all those goobt worker moochers who only worked 20 years, retired at age 50, and now sock it in (or double dip or more) will all be pooled in with us commoners? That might not be a bad deal. An former friend of mine retired from the NPS in SF, regular park ranger. She makes over 35K a year and is only 52. Yes, I chose the wrong route going private sector, apparently.


51 posted on 11/15/2012 1:39:40 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: Heartlander2

I never thought that Obamacare would happen. The minute we say this type of thing can’t happen, it does with this government.


52 posted on 11/15/2012 1:40:26 PM PST by dmyhra
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To: Heartlander2

Always knew that the government was not going to let trillions of dollars pass tax free in 401ks & 403bs to the middle & upper middle class.


53 posted on 11/15/2012 1:44:56 PM PST by LongWayHome
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To: Heartlander2; All
They started before Oboingo got elected, these Statist are on a roll and Boner is useless to stop them...

Go here:

http://www.investmentnews.com/article/20081007/REG/810079894

What out for this Teresa Ghilarducci........

54 posted on 11/15/2012 1:46:12 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Heartlander2

Their idea of a new retirement system: you report to disintegration chambers upon retirement.


55 posted on 11/15/2012 1:47:14 PM PST by Dogbert41 (What now?)
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To: Dogbert41
Their idea of a new retirement system: you report to disintegration chambers upon retirement.


56 posted on 11/15/2012 1:48:40 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: apillar
"The stock market would immediately plunge 10,000 points as everybody emptied their IRA/401-K."

Are you kidding? People would pull all their money out of everything.

57 posted on 11/15/2012 1:48:51 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Own It.)
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To: Terry Mross

Yes.


58 posted on 11/15/2012 1:51:20 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Heartlander2; All
This Obama cat is out to destroy everything Reagan did. Lower Marginal Rates, Fostering Small Business, and a Strong Military.

More importantly he is metaphorically pissing on the grave of Jack Kemp and Bill Roth who gave us 401k's IRA's and the Roth IRA's....

How dare we be empowered and independent since 1982, he is here to change all that, we have to join his collective and be assimilated...

59 posted on 11/15/2012 1:51:39 PM PST by taildragger (( Tighten the 5 point harness and brace for Impact Freepers, ya know it's coming..... ))
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To: Heartlander2

I work my whole life, saving a much larger percentage of my income than the average bear. And in my planning I “assume” that my company pension and SS would be “marginally viable.” Now they want to take MY money because that lazy bastard down the road wants his 60 inch TV and cottage in New Hampshire?

F that. I will take my 401 k out, pay the fine, and bury the gold in the back yard.

Playing by the rules is a suckers game.


60 posted on 11/15/2012 1:51:39 PM PST by Vermont Lt (The dude abides.)
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