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Some folks here were predicting churches would be targeted by the IRS soon.
1 posted on 11/15/2012 11:10:43 AM PST by Ellendra
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To: Ellendra

Rev. Wright?


2 posted on 11/15/2012 11:12:34 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: Ellendra

Issues are 100% acceptable. Promoting candidates is not.


3 posted on 11/15/2012 11:20:03 AM PST by tired&retired
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To: Ellendra

Religious organisation have gathered up there lawyers and have pushed against the myth that the IRS has any authority to regulate speech from the pulpit. Recently the IRS has stated and agreed with the lawyers representing religious organizations that the IRS has no legal authority to silence political speech from the pulpit. This case has no leg and is going nowhere!


4 posted on 11/15/2012 11:20:03 AM PST by qman (The communist usurper must go!)
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To: Ellendra

I never understood why churches accepted this whole “non-profit” status thing. They gave the government a hold on them by accepting that. They should have never had to register with government at all.

I think unregistered churches and house churches are the wave of the future.


5 posted on 11/15/2012 11:27:03 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Ellendra
I'm covering my head as I say this: I would like to see the end of ANY tax exemptions or government benefits for religious institutions, secular charities, educational entities, and nonprofit organizations. If you believe in your church or charity, support it. I'll support mine. Meanwhile, a whole lot of opportunity for corruption and outright theft will evaporate overnight.
7 posted on 11/15/2012 11:33:03 AM PST by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: Ellendra

Churches that back 0bama and middle-eastern-death-cult indoctrination centers are exempt.


8 posted on 11/15/2012 11:36:18 AM PST by I want the USA back (Sheep have two speeds: graze and panic.)
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To: Ellendra

Black churches?


9 posted on 11/15/2012 11:38:19 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Ellendra

This is exactly what these churches want. They want to IRS to crack down on them, so they can take it to court and hand the Johnson amendment thrown out.

Churches have been tax-exempt since 1791 (the year the Constitution was ratified). That was 122 years before the income tax came into existence (1913).

Churches are NOT tax-exempt because they are non-profits.

Churches ARE tax-exempt because they are religious institutions. And, that is the end of the story.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” It has always been understood that, since taxation has the power to destroy, that allowing the government to tax a church would inhibit the church’s ability to practice its religion.


11 posted on 11/15/2012 11:41:22 AM PST by Brookhaven (theconservativehand.com - alt2p.com)
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To: Ellendra
What part of "Congress shall make no law" do they not get?
14 posted on 11/15/2012 11:48:15 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: Ellendra
This is just a bluff being pushed for (1)publicity and (2)intimidation: "chilling effect." Of course, it could succeed at both. But it won't result in anything in relation to the law.

No candidate was mentioned, for or against. No political party was mentioned, for or against. That means: there was no electioneering.

Churches and clergy are ALWAYS permitted ("permitted"!) to talk about issues.

15 posted on 11/15/2012 11:49:56 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (What does the Lord require of you but to act justly, to love tenderly, to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: Ellendra

The case will be dismissed on the basis on standing. Since FFR has not been denied its tax exempt status it has no controversy or claim at issue.


20 posted on 11/15/2012 12:05:50 PM PST by circlecity
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To: Ellendra

If this includes Black churches then I’m on board. If it is white churches only stuff it.


21 posted on 11/15/2012 12:09:30 PM PST by redangus
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To: Ellendra

Wait! Before I read the article, they’re talkin ‘bout the black churches, right?


24 posted on 11/15/2012 12:45:09 PM PST by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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To: Ellendra

since the belief in man-made gorebul warming is a religion, and liberlism in general is a religion, lets ban them from churches too.


25 posted on 11/15/2012 12:49:53 PM PST by bravo whiskey
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To: Ellendra

Note to Madison:

Before you walk too far down this path, you might aquaint yourself with the kinds of political activity that occurs in BLACK churches.

They have been holding fundraisers & campaign appearances for a long time.

You ne3ed to see this evidence before you go after white churches.


28 posted on 11/15/2012 1:54:47 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Ellendra; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; ...

The tiresome Freedom From Religion folks are at it again — suing churches.

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


30 posted on 11/16/2012 2:09:59 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Ellendra
The targeted Church's should file a class action Civil Rights case for the attempted suppression of the 1st amendment and ask for several billion dollars.
31 posted on 11/16/2012 2:17:54 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: Ellendra

Will they be going after mosques as well as churches?

Somehow I doubt it.


32 posted on 11/16/2012 2:42:18 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Cut the cable today!)
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To: Ellendra

Sounds like the WhiteHouse is becoming a little more sophisticated......using its community branches now to further it’s political ends.


33 posted on 11/16/2012 2:48:20 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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