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To: little jeremiah

Fraud or no fraud apparently fewer people turned out to vote the Republican ticket. Why is that?

“Turnout was apparently down, at least as a percentage of eligible voters. President Barack Obama was re-elected by a reduced margin. Challenger Mitt Romney didn’t inspire the turnout surge he needed.”

http://www.noozhawk.com/article/111212_michael_barone_obama_claims_mandate/


88 posted on 11/12/2012 8:15:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

From what I’ve read (just everything I can find/have time for), votes could have been and most likely were just erased, changed, dumped, and with computer voting, just deleted.

I think the story of massive fraud is just emerging. Hopefully those who can dig will dig, as Allen West’s team is attempting to do.

Of course, an actual conservative candidate would be excellent, but massive fraud can make the best candidate “lose”.


89 posted on 11/12/2012 8:25:05 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Jim Robinson; little jeremiah

There are a few realities that we sometimes ignore.

1. If you remove black women from the notion that women overwhelmingly supported Obama, then you discover that Romney and Obama were about even on women. The black population voted 98% for Obama. It seems to me that is more of an answer than some “war on women” notion. Now add in a 75/25 split of the Hispanic population that Obama won and subtract Hispanic women. There are racial reasons for minority women supporting Obama and there were entitlement reasons why they needed the government to be a father for their children born out of wedlock at the highest rates in US history. That’s no “war on women”. That’s a culture going morally insane. That’s the reality.

2. Consumers are rational creatures. If you offer them a better financial package than I do, then you are more likely to win them than I am. If entitlements are offering them more than the low paying and/or part time jobs that are available, then entitlements are going to win more of them than will low paying jobs. So, the real problem is the loss of middle and high paying jobs in the USA. Politicians have been play “America last” when it comes to jobs, and there has been a giant sucking sound of American jobs going overseas and to the south.

3. Finally, there’s the media. If the major media outlets are Fox, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNBC, FoxB, MSNBC, CNN, Talk Radio, Entertainment TV, Movies, NYT, WP, WSJ, and US Today, and you own 3 of those 15, then they are reaching a lot more people than us and a lot faster than us.

They can broadcast what they want and ignore what they want, and they are going to win the information war.

The above 3 are realities. I think #2 is critical. If we don’t get people in middle paying jobs, so they have something to protect, then we’ll never overcome racial and entitlement interests. And if we don’t get a better means of quickly disseminating authoritative news/information, then we’ll never get our message out as completely or as quickly as the opposition.


99 posted on 11/13/2012 7:20:12 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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