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To: Travis McGee; muawiyah
My living depends on crops.
I travel extensively throughout the crop lands of our country.

Based on personal observation, we lost about 1/3 of the crops this season.

Is it enought to hurt, and possibly higher food costs because of supply and demand? Yes.

Is it going to put the USA into starvation mode? No.

206 posted on 11/15/2012 5:17:37 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Just another Joe

We won’t starve for sure, but it puts another stressor on the system. The crunch will come during any financial dislocation that causes the EBT system to flash ERROR for even a few days. That will throw the road flare into the match factory. It won’t be a problem of food supply, but food delivery.


207 posted on 11/15/2012 5:22:39 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Just another Joe
obviously we won't starve. Among other things we have this world wide military presence and can acquire whatever we need if it comes to that. others will starve first.

On the other hand, you are answering a post where I had already looked at the Drought Monitor maps, and had done so several times this year and last, and Travis hadn't ~ I then posted a link to the Monitor, Travis' next post changed its tone.

The Great Droughts in North America have been worse at times, and mild at others, but they are widespread and clearly linked to solar cycles.

Outside of pre-history, the worst one I know of occurred in the second half of the 16th century, and lasted 70 years in parts of the East (Spanish NA from New York to North Carolina) and during one 17 year period, it appears to have not rained at all in what is now Virginia's Tidewater ~ from the Capes all the way to Great Falls and possibly East to the ocean.

More study is required on that one ~ could be it reached all the way to the West Coast ~ and could have been part of the climate disasters that made Spanish exploration of that area so difficult until the mid 1700s. Fur Shur, by the time they got into California the Indians were in truly pitiful shape.

211 posted on 11/15/2012 8:32:59 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Just another Joe
obviously we won't starve. Among other things we have this world wide military presence and can acquire whatever we need if it comes to that. others will starve first.

On the other hand, you are answering a post where I had already looked at the Drought Monitor maps, and had done so several times this year and last, and Travis hadn't ~ I then posted a link to the Monitor, Travis' next post changed its tone.

The Great Droughts in North America have been worse at times, and mild at others, but they are widespread and clearly linked to solar cycles.

Outside of pre-history, the worst one I know of occurred in the second half of the 16th century, and lasted 70 years in parts of the East (Spanish NA from New York to North Carolina) and during one 17 year period, it appears to have not rained at all in what is now Virginia's Tidewater ~ from the Capes all the way to Great Falls and possibly East to the ocean.

More study is required on that one ~ could be it reached all the way to the West Coast ~ and could have been part of the climate disasters that made Spanish exploration of that area so difficult until the mid 1700s. Fur Shur, by the time they got into California the Indians were in truly pitiful shape.

212 posted on 11/15/2012 8:33:19 AM PST by muawiyah
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