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To: OneWingedShark; Jim Robinson

You quote from the “Libertarian” platform:

“We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose.”

This is EXACTLY what makes them LIBERTINE. This allows all kinds of unrestrained immoral behavior like OPEN Homoseuxality in the military, etc. etc.

Don’t invoke God, accept at your own peril. You stand judged and condemned by HIM already....you don’t have to wait until “judgement day.” Scripture is clear that such behavior is a DIRECT affront to God...and those that practice it are ALLOW it are already guilty. God ordained government to restrain such wickedness....not allow it.

Libertarians are NOT conservatives...they just share some common enemies with them and have some limited shared interests. However, Libertarians/Libertines don’t belong in the GOP. Wack job Ron Paul and his offspring (if he shares his daddy’s wacky ideas) are just a blight on the GOP. They mislead the young and naive and give aid and comfort to evil doers.

There is NO liberty in the depravity that Libertarians(libertines) will allow. Living in Sodom is not living.


24 posted on 11/11/2012 6:28:45 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
Wow you utterly miss the point -- which is that it is not the government's place to enforce morality, that way was already tried and doesn't work, the only thing that does work is the transformative power of Jesus Christ, and guess what! His church is is alive and well completely independently of any government's stance (there are many which outlaw or severely restrict Christianity).

Don’t invoke God, accept at your own peril.

It's 'except'.

You stand judged and condemned by HIM already....you don’t have to wait until “judgement day.”

No, I do not; He is my savior and who are you to claim any differently?

Scripture is clear that such behavior is a DIRECT affront to God...and those that practice it are ALLOW it are already guilty.

Sin itself is what makes one guilty; and if the acceptance of homosexuality by government was enough to withhold salvation from a people the Greeks wouldn't have been saved -- but there are many mentions of Greek Christians in the new testament.

The Bible is also clear that murderers are not inheritors of the kingdom of Heaven, and that the Apostle Paul considered himself a murderer -- does that mean that he had no part of the Kingdom of God?

>God ordained government to restrain such wickedness....not allow it.

God also ordained it to uphold justice -- does ours?
I contend that the best, and only lasting way to defeat homosexuality and the like is not through Law but through Jesus -- or do you wish to deny the power of God to change people?

30 posted on 11/11/2012 6:58:17 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Sola Veritas
so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose.”

The logical path from this to open homosexuality in the military goes through some sort of extra-dimensional worm-hole into another universe. Maybe it is LSD induced.

33 posted on 11/11/2012 6:59:11 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Sola Veritas
“We hold that all individuals have the right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives, and have the right to live in whatever manner they choose, so long as they do not forcibly interfere with the equal right of others to live in whatever manner they choose.”

Why do you assume that the lack of government will result in depravity?

It has been my experience that too much government leads to depravity under the color of law. We have more laws than ever, and more corruption than ever.

Individuals would be free to pray in the schools they pay for, to hire whomever they choose (to keep depravity out of their workforce), etc.

LIBERTY comes with responsibility, and substituting law for individual responsibility and accountability only works with honest and moral people. The law has only become a device to enforce corruption, especially when the Government ignores it.

Power corrupts, and the State has far too much power.YMMV

95 posted on 11/12/2012 6:15:40 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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