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To: artichokegrower
We had amnesty in 1986 the problem with the 1986 "reform" was simply that IT WAS NOT ENFORCED once amnesty was granted! The borders were not enforced.. the law was ignored by government and business.

In the early 2000s we had miles of FR threads about this.

The "reform" granted legal status to far more than was declared during the debate and as the years passed millions more poured through the border with the full knowledge and approval of government and business. They were all here illegally with the full knowledge and welcome of government and business.

The SSA has file called the Earnings Suspense File (ESF) which documents every SSN earning that did not match the SS master file. Nothing is deleted from the ESF unless the earnings are transferred to a valid SSN in the SS master files. Records in the ESF go back to 1937.

FIGURE 1: STATUS OF THE EARNINGS SUSPENSE FILE (Tax Years 1937-2000) in CONGRESSIONAL RESPONSE REPORT Social Security Administration Benefits Related to Unauthorized Work, A-03-03-23053 (March, 2003), shows some interesting things about the Earnings Suspense File (ESF).

It shows that following the 1986 amnesty and "reform" there was a decrease in volume of records in the file.

Well, the SSA does not delete earnings statements from the ESF unless it can transfer the earnings to a valid SSN. Amnesty -- by any name -- creates valid SSNs and the SSA will transfer past earnings data submitted with bogus SSNs to valid SSNs. It helps SS for the ILLEGALS to have their old W-2s showing the bogus SSNs they used.

To the best of my knowledge it was a 2004 law that finally required SS benefits be earned with authorized work from 2004 on. ILLEGAL aliens can get SS benefits based upon all bogus SSNs prior to 2004 once they become legal "guest workers," or through their own efforts they become legal and acquire a valid SSN -- or get amnesty.

Immigration "reform" will likely delete the 2004 requirement -- if it was ever enforced anyway.

Border enforcement will be IGNORED no matter the law.. that cheap, taxpayer subsidized labor is just to valuable to businesses.

41 posted on 11/11/2012 2:28:44 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Yeah, they still owe us a border closing from the last “amnesty”. They like to harp about everyone else “paying their fair share” while they ignore their own debts. Don’t know any more what there is for it, but war. We’ve tried everything else.


46 posted on 11/11/2012 2:34:47 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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