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Put aside the fact that, as the election played out, Sandy was a critical boost for the president. Let’s pretend that it was just a vote drain — one that explains at least some of the slight drop in young voters. What did it really cost Obama? Maybe a million votes? It doesn’t come close to accounting for the cratering of his support. Even if he had lost only 8 million votes, that would still have been 11 percent of his 2008 vote haul gone poof. Romney should have won going away.
1 posted on 11/11/2012 11:27:36 AM PST by pabianice
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It's simple...other than the vote fraud, obama promises his constituents what they want....

The GOPe promises its constituents what the GOPe wants.

The "reach across the aisle" has turned into "giving the dems a reach around", while they sock it to us.
41 posted on 11/11/2012 12:01:56 PM PST by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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Those Republicans who “stayed at home”should be condemned in the harshest language!!People who think Obama’s first term was a Failure are IGNORANT!!!His first term was a resounding SUCCESS!!!!He has expanded government and gotten his ObamaCare and INCREASED DRAMATICALLY dependence on government!!!!!These were(and are)his goals and those who are”pulling his strings”!!!!!!Watch what he does now that he doesn’t need re-election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


47 posted on 11/11/2012 12:04:16 PM PST by bandleader
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oh for crying out loud when will the cowards learn that this was not about republicans not turning up it was a rigged election and we’re finding out more around the country and so is Allen West.

Fed up of seeing articles by the cowards saying we did not turn up and yet 8 millions did not turn up either for his side,.

That is crap


50 posted on 11/11/2012 12:04:58 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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First off, some of this decline has to be from the fact that a huge part of the nation was recovering from Sandy but that should have affected Obama more in the total count.

For those that keep repeating how they stayed home b/c Romney was as bad as Obama, please tell me how many of you voted for McCain and not Romney ? You have every right to stay home, but I know dozens of people that didn’t vote for McCain and turned out for Romney. I’ve yet to meet anyone that did the opposite. If fewer voted for Romney than McCain in OH and PA there surely have to be plenty of you out there. Unless the difference came from voter destruction, that’s my take on it. I guess I’ve yet to see the partisan turnout in OH. If more R’s showed up for him and the I’s didn’t show up that could be the problem too.


57 posted on 11/11/2012 12:07:55 PM PST by Bigjimslade
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The Voters who stayed Home (bitter pill: Republicans re-elected Obama)

Ok, let's start with this is NRO - NOT the most unpredjudiced organization in America.

AND, let's add in to the mix the reports from FL and OH about voter fraud, then ask yourself this question: Do these election results make sense??

Prior to the election, zero and Romney were pretty much neck and neck in the polls, even WITH Democrat oversampling. The DBM was telling us that zero's supporters were depresed and Romney's supporters were energized.

So, why on earth would ANY of us ever believe something from NRO that incorproates Dem talking points of gloating and piling on Republicans!?

Before the election, we knew that zero was soliciting and organizing union thugs, but we didn't see any overt signs of them and we didn't know what he was organizing them to do. Now we know. In many counties in FL and OH and even in CO (as well as how many other states that have not released this information) the election results EXCEEDED the number of registered voters in these counties!! Does that not make you go "hmmmmm"!!???

IMO, we are witnessing the tip of a scandal that will be, perhaps, one of the biggest in American history. Obama, so far, is getting away with stealing this election right out from under our noses.

We know, with the current state of affairs in America, that the rule of law is dead and the Constitution has been shredded, so DON"T expect any elected representatives to begin tilting at windmills to right this massive wrong.

That means we either DO SOMETHING, or we shrug our shoulders and say "oh, well, I can't do anything."

So, what's it going to be? The light of history is upon us. Do we fish . . . . . . . . or cut bait?

61 posted on 11/11/2012 12:08:26 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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This article seems to suggest voters stayed home because Romney or Republicans aren’t fiscally austere enough. It’d be nice if voters were that focused on the issues, but I doubt it. It’s implausible when most of the voters who stayed home were former Obama voters. That proves they’re either not fiscally austere or they are woefully ill-informed and vote mostly on emotion.

We really need to see more research on who the voters were that stayed home. They voted for Obama last time, but must have been disappointed with the direction the country took. But we don’t know why they couldn’t accept Romney. Was it because they still blamed Republicans for the financial collapse of 2008? If so, that’s Romney’s fault for never arguing the case for why LIBERAL economics caused that crisis. When Obama directly confronted him in the debates about it he ignored him and changed the subject.

The exit polls showed Romney’s biggest problem was that he just seemed out-of-touch and unable to relate to most voters. That could be attributable to his 47% gaffe, baggage from his Bain Capital days, or the simple fact that his personality itself seems to get in the way of him connecting with the average person on an emotional level. Bottom line, he was intrinsically a bad candidate, as many of the primary voters realized, but not enough.


73 posted on 11/11/2012 12:14:52 PM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To the headline: bull excrement


78 posted on 11/11/2012 12:16:21 PM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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“This is the most important election of our lifetime.” That was the ubiquitous rally cry of Republican leaders. The country yawned. About 11 million fewer Americans voted for the two major-party candidates in 2012 — 119 million, down from 130 million in 2008. In fact, even though our population has steadily increased in the last eight years (adding 16 million to the 2004 estimate of 293 million Americans), about 2 million fewer Americans pulled the lever for Obama and Romney than for George W. Bush and John Kerry. That is staggering.

It is also wrong. Millions of votes have yet to be counted. It took until Thanksgiving to get the total vote count in 2008. For example, only 71% of CA's votes have been reported until now. There are millions of votes to be added to the current total from CA alone. The national total is now over 120 million.

107 posted on 11/11/2012 12:35:38 PM PST by kabar
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It was fraud, McCarthy.


136 posted on 11/11/2012 1:21:24 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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“This is the most important election of our lifetime.”

Ya, Newt Gingrich said that. And the a**hole GOPe did everything in their power to knock him out.

FNC led the charge along with a bunch of so called conservative news sights such as NRO and talk show radio host, including but not limited to “Wormtongue” Beck.

ONLY the “Cream of the Crop in conservatism,” backed Newt.

So KMA! STFU! and go take a look at yourselves in the mirror.
You so called EXPERTS are ALWAYS full of CRAP!

Ya’ll only drink ‘TEA’ when it suits your agenda!

BTW! You may want to remind John “LIMP D*#K BOOZER,” that it was “TEA” and “TEA” ALONE that returned him to power as “WEEPER OF THE BULLSH*T HOUSE!”

Tell me again why Sarah Palin, the former 2008, Vice Presidential Candidate, was “NOT ALLOWED” to speak at the covention! I would really like to know.

Tell me why Ron Paul’s delegates were shut down and ignored as though they didn’t even exist! I would like to know.

Now, get back to your stinking HELL HOLES from which you came and do your grinding & gnashing of teeth in each others presence! IOW! STFU!

BTW! You may want to check the % of votes cast for the WON, What was that? That’s right! Ya ain’t got the BA*LS!

STOP PISSING IN THE TEA CUP!


138 posted on 11/11/2012 1:32:58 PM PST by billys kid ("Bury me on my head for one day this world will be upside down." (Diogenes))
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I have not conceded that we got less votes than McCain did. Something really fishy went on in this election. Yeah, there were some Republicans who stayed home, but the enthusiasm to vote against Obama was huge.


142 posted on 11/11/2012 1:53:28 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (christian.bahits.com)
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Freepers did more for OBama than Chris Matthews and Bill Maher- RAcheal Madcow and NYT - combined.

As they await Reagen rising form the dead.


178 posted on 11/11/2012 2:47:33 PM PST by NoLibZone ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic")
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Obama just called up his good buddy Chavez way down south and just asked him how he won his elections.


180 posted on 11/11/2012 2:51:48 PM PST by Eye of Unk
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Be prepared to hear all about lots of “voters staying home”...the Bipartisan Oligarchy would rather we all stew in that mess..than having us all bothered, and deciding to investigate, about all the voters voting who never voted...

Listening to descriptions of how “Democrats got out their ground game” with “superior ability to bring those to the polls who normally would never go” by the commentators on Fox election night..made me realize..what they actually have done is track names that HAVE NOT VOTED IN MANY, MANY elections cycles....and vote them.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/10/23/No-Car-Finds-2-214-Registered-Voters-110-Years-of-Age-Older

A well-funded project, county-by-county..to examine the names signed in at at the polls..and going out to find those individuals..you’ll find they were never physically at he polls..or they themselves never filled out the absentee ballot....or their names in the death registers.

The very LAST thing the Bipartisan Oligarchy want or need is any semblance of Constitutional Federal Gov’mt or a clean vote.

Both those are up to We the People to cram it down their throats so hard in DC they will, someday, never do otherwise.

Absent a clean vote.....We the People are being taxed without representation..Ask George III how well that worked out!


189 posted on 11/11/2012 4:07:46 PM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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Sign the petition for a recount:
http://www.petition2congress.com/8222/petition-recount-on-2012-presidential-election/

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Visit this site.
http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/

They are keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:
http://www.ObamaVoterFraud.com/

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SATURDAY UPDATES (Thurs and Fri fraud at site)

Military service members purged from voter rolls in Florida...
http://redflagnews.com/military-service-members-purged-from-voter-rolls-in-florida

Pundit Press: In Florida: Obama Got Over 99% in Broward County Precincts
http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/in-florida-obama-got-over-99-in-broward.html?spref=fb

TRR: Allen West Seeks Recount Amid Growing Vote Count Scandal
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/nov/9/allen-west-asks-recount-amid-growing-vote-count-sc/

[This is the same St. Lucie that has 141.1% voter turnout affecting both Romney and West...]

St. Lucie County - 84 juridictions, 83 of them had 121-166% turn out
http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20SOVC%20REPORT.pdf

Nevada Unions Are Regestering Illegals and Forcing Them to Vote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMGd50sZG4g&feature=share

The video suggests that this method was the only way Harry Reid was able to defeat challenger Sharon Angle in 2010 to retain his Senate seat and continues to be used.

via Jewel on Facebook: “Could you please help us? There is a petition for a recount and it takes 28,000 signatures. We are all promoting it and would love to have you on our side. The link to sign the petition is:”
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fpetitions.whitehouse.gov%2Fpetition%2Frecount-election%2FZQmy0Mlv%23thank-you%3Dp&h=4AQEgo5BK

Another petition, this one to Congress:
http://www.petition2congress.com/8222/petition-recount-on-2012-presidential-election/

You can also request that Reince Preibus of the GOP start a swing state recount based on information available at this website and as part of ORCA (Thanks Shirley!):
http://www.gop.com/contact-us/

I’ve added links to all three petitions to the sidebar at the top of this page and expect to add more.

Voter Fraud by the numbers? Absolutely
http://www.altadenagroup.com/CSIA/post_details.asp?p_ID=10774

Thank you to everyone who is sharing this page! As of Saturday morning, we are getting about 3,000 visitors an hour. You are making a difference!

SUNDAY UPDATES

This one is MUST SEE:

“Obama won 100% of the 900,135 votes cast in Cuyahoga County OH! No votes from new registered voters or indies went to Mitt. Voting officials SHOULD BE ARRESTED BY OUR MILITARY FOR SEDITION & PERPETRATING A FRAUD AGAINST ALL OF AMERICA. A CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT WILL BE FILED against the networks for not telling the truth! view pic.”
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=3474982207064&set=a.1633846179814.70439.1646473511&type=1&theater

Summary Photo
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/534531_3474982207064_881171232_n.jpg

Throw out this all-fraud county and Mitt wins Ohio, no question!

Why? A total of 5,364,324 “people” voted in Ohio. Obama got 2,691,861 votes, while Romney got 2,584,620, a difference of 107,241 votes.

How did Cuyahoga County’s 900,135 votes affect the final result? You do the math.

For Ohio to certify this result would be a crime in and of itself.

Thank you to the Examiner for mentioning us!

Citing voter fraud, petition at White House web site demands recount of election
http://www.examiner.com/article/citing-voter-fraud-petition-at-white-house-web-site-demands-recount-of-election

Thanks also to The Competent Conservative for quoting us in entirety!

Is There Enough Evidence of Voter Fraud To Merit a Recount?
http://thecompetentconservative.com/is-there-enough-evidence-of-voter-fraud-to-merit-a-recount/

Much more to come! As one of our commenters below said, voter fraud is like cockroaches. You find one and they are likely everywhere. Cuyahoga County, Ohio is obviously not alone!

Here is a petition you can sign at Change.org to request a full recount. I suggest we just focus on the swing states, but it is true that many Congressional and Senate races are also affected, from Allen West to, I believe, Mia Love. Mia was up by 10% the week before the election and lost by 3,000 votes to Matheson in a state that went 73% for Romney. Not likely!

http://www.change.org/petitions/united-states-federal-election-commission-we-demand-a-full-recount-of-the-2012-presidential-election

Military votes not counted?
http://nera.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=191%3Amilitary-ballots-not-counted&catid=81%3Ablog1&Itemid=148

The Columbus Dispatch reports, “Voter rolls in Ohio are bloated, experts say”
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2012/09/16/voter-rolls-in-ohio-are-bloated-experts-say.html

An update on St. Lucie County, Florida:
http://watchdogwire.com/florida/2012/11/10/update-massive-voter-fraud-in-st-lucie-county-florida-called-into-question-141-turnout/

Video: More fraud from Florida, including kicking out an elderly poll observer doing his job using the police:
http://www.bizpacreview.com/elections-supervisor-calls-police-to-kick-elderly-allen-west-ballot-observer-out/

Townhall blogger Rachel Alexander reports:

Obama Likely Won Re-Election Through Election Fraud
http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2012/11/11/obama_likely_won_reelection_through_election_fraud

The Washington Times: Florida Vote Twist: More Ballots Than Voters
http://m.washingtontimes.com/blog/robbins-report/2012/nov/10/florida-vote-twist-more-ballots-voters/

Here is a link to Allen West’s press release on the voter fraud situation in Florida:
http://bit.ly/TCYnUe

Newsmax reports: Voter Fraud Charges Begin in Ohio

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Ohio-voter-registration-fraud/2012/11/03/id/462674

Darin Southam recommends TrueTheVote.org for some pre-election indications of potential voter fraud, but the page understates what actually happened in pretty much every swing state.
http://www.truethevote.org/news/how-widespread-is-voter-fraud-2012-facts-figures

And what do you think of this? This was way before the election, but apparently George Soros, who we have already established rigged an election in Hungary and was banned for it AND helped get Obama elected the first time... I’ll let you read the headline:

“Soros advises Obama to use forceful measures to override the will of the people”
http://redwhitebluenews.com/?p=12336

I think this goes well beyond the 900+ executive orders that go around Congress, more than three times the executive orders given by all previous US Presidents combined. We saw it in action Tuesday, November 6th!

A Tea Party group has posted this article, with interesting stats and some criticism for Romney for not standing up and doing something about it yet:
http://teapartyorg.ning.com/m/discussion?id=4301673%3ATopic%3A1108645

Personally I think as the case is strong enough, Mitt will do something. Too much is at stake, and as we just found out, Ohio is definitely Mitt’s, and Florida, too, just based on fraud in a few counties! Colorado, too!

Keep up the referrals and the sharing, everyone! Thank you SO much for helping America fix an election that has clearly been “fixed.”

Voter fraud cheapens the votes of the 60 million who picked Mitt to the point of nothingness and gives weight to those who in reality were the minority. If grand theft is defined as any theft over $5,000, what do you call the ONE BILLION times that that is likely to happen AGAIN over the next four years if we do not right this wrong?

Here is to our real President Elect and First Lady, Mitt and Ann Romney.

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195 posted on 11/11/2012 5:33:41 PM PST by patriot08
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The bottom line is that the GOP wants the conservative VOTE without offering conservatives ANYTHING. No wonder people stayed home.

Now the estabishment RINO GOP get’s exactly what they’ve always wanted—the chance to “cross the isle”. I’m sure John Boehner will sink to the occasion...


212 posted on 11/12/2012 7:26:00 AM PST by libdestroyer
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SARAH PALIN speaks out of massive Obama machine voter fraud:

Sarah Palin News ‏@SarahPalinLinks Between suppression of the military vote and voter fraud, Obama stole another election. http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302 …DEMAND A RECOUNT! #VoterFraud

Sarah Palin News ‏@SarahPalinLinks People need to stop pointing fingers within the GOP and investigate the Dems' massive voter fraud and suppression of the military vote.

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226 posted on 11/12/2012 11:43:56 AM PST by patriot08
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I thought the "missing Republican voters" conundrum had already been solved?

Some analyst (I forget who) figured out that GOP voters in some large states -- CA and upstate NY, for example-- were not aggressively pursued by the Romney campaign, due to its focus on electoral vote-rich swing states like Ohio and Florida.

In other words, the popular vote total was viewed as less critical than the electoral vote total. Which is undeniably true.

Was this a smart strategy? I have to say that even though Romney lost, I don't see a flaw in the reasoning here.

Why? Because the GOP is never going to get the electoral votes of CA and NY, unless those states were to change their election laws and begin to award electoral votes proportionally. Which is not going to happen.

247 posted on 11/13/2012 9:11:05 AM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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I am not one of the ones who stayed home, but it would be nice if the ‘Pubbies learned they can win without Conservatives and that we DO have an option - staying home.

I guess that is too much to hope. More likely they’re going to keep trying to “Hispanic votes” away from Santa Claus or something else stupid.


255 posted on 11/22/2012 4:48:47 PM PST by Little Ray (I have VOTED AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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