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To: thecodont; gumbie05; mrsmel; Mr Fuji

when we start seeing outreach centers in strip malls in ethnic neighborhoods.
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Yes, that is a start.
My fathers family was Middle/Working Class Irish in NYS.
My mothers family (Mass) ‘claimed’ ties back to Mayflower.
She was Protestant, her mother Christian Scientist.
Both Mother and Father RN’s.
Grandfather 40+ mailman on ‘small town’ walking route.
He was ‘upset’ when I joined Navy in 1956 because that ‘damn Republican (IKE) was pres and no war going on’.

So, in effect me at 18 leaning toward the Republican side is/was much the same as a Black Conservative today.
A minority that the D’s took for granted - the old “where else are they going to go” attitude.

When we see ‘campaign rallies’ with Blacks on the “R” stage, ‘WE’ have to point out that a ‘couple’ of Blacks were there.
Very subtly the ‘press’ managed to show - when appropriate - BO in rallies surrounded by fawning Whites and didn’t make a big deal of it.

I used to say the ‘problem’ with the R’s is they wanted to start as a Senator and go up from there.

The D’s would start out as ‘dogcatcher’, school board, city/town council other local positions so by the time they were running for Congress, they were a ‘household name’.

So, to the minorities (be it Irish minority, Italian Minority, Black Minority, Hispanic Minority etc(whomever happens to be the Minority at the time)) the R’s are for the elitists.

Like, back in the day, the ‘raffles’ sponsored by the Church. It was ‘always’ a surprise that a Priest or Nun won the ‘new car’ appliance or whatever the raffle may be.

The ‘Santa Claus’ attitude is a good one, how else would you explain how a LIAR, in the case of MA has been lying all her life, taking advantage of the system, (based on a lie) and the Senator from CT in ‘10 lying about his achievements etc about his USMC service (granted the strongest candidate didn’t run against him) but a good man, Alan West, goes down in flame - where is the RNC demanding etc...bet your bippy if Debby ‘wacky’ etal was in the same spot as West, the DNC, DOJ would be having probes, and the WH would be throwing in with their .02....

Like them or not, the Libs do stick together...

Used to be a saying years ago “When the Russians arrest an American for spying, the Americans arrest 5 Americans for spying”.

If a Lib comes up on charges, they circle the wagons and go to bat for him/her, no matter how bad the situation.

If a Rep comes up on charges, you can pretty much bet that enough R’s will support the charge to make expulsion virtually mandatory.

Of course, take the high moral ground and someday you will have to live up to it.


78 posted on 11/11/2012 8:57:50 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "Hope in one hand and $hiite in the other and see which fills up first".)
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To: xrmusn

Yes, but you changed your stance based on principles, not on ethnic pandering. If the existing principles aren’t enough, what is? That’s why I make the point that these days of mass, omni-present media, only an ignoramus doesn’t know at least roughly where the parties at least ostensibly stand on issues, and they still choose the party of gimmees, above every other consideration, icluding their own supposed “social conservatism”. I no longer believe in that supposed social conservatism of the majority of people. I just saw an article touting the idea that most blacks are not opposed to homosexual marriage after all. If true, it doesn’t surprise me. When it came down to the wire, it was a choice between their supposed social conservatism and their desire for freebies, and it’s no surprise that the freebies won. I never could see how a group with the highest rates of bastardy could be so socially conservative, and that applies to a large number of whites also. Surprisingly, one group who lives in a socially conservative way, despite their support in principle for libertinism, is successful white liberals. They don’t practice what they preach, because they know the score. So why are they so adamant in support of a lifestyle of failure for others?


80 posted on 11/11/2012 9:18:58 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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