Posted on 11/10/2012 7:53:35 PM PST by tobyhill
On a conference call with House Republicans a day after the party’s electoral battering last week, Speaker John A. Boehner dished out some bitter medicine, and for the first time in the 112th Congress, most members took their dose.
Their party lost, badly, Mr. Boehner said, and while Republicans would still control the House and would continue to staunchly oppose tax rate increases as Congress grapples with the impending fiscal battle, they had to avoid the nasty showdowns that marked so much of the last two years.
Members on the call, subdued and dark, murmured words of support — even a few who had been a thorn in the speaker’s side for much of this Congress.
It was a striking contrast to a similar call last year, when Mr. Boehner tried to persuade members to compromise with Democrats on a deal to extend a temporary cut in payroll taxes, only to have them loudly revolt.
With President Obama re-elected and Democrats cementing control of the Senate, Mr. Boehner will need to capitalize on the chastened faction of the House G.O.P. that wants to cut a deal to avert sudden tax increases and across-the-board spending cuts in January that could send the economy back into recession. After spending two years marooned between the will of his loud and fractious members and the Democratic Senate majority, the speaker is trying to assert control, and many members seem to be offering support.
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What frustrates me to no end is that I see is 90% of the conservatives in politics being keyboard warriors complaining, but not being reliable when we need them. I see the same small group of people at our local republican meetings. I see people unopposed for precinct delegate. I see the same small group picking Republican leadership, and unrehearsed in Roberts Rules of Order. I see true conservative reps like Tim Walberg not getting the help they need because someone's all ticked off about McCain being the nominee and quitting. I don't like McCain at all, but that's not Tim's fault.
Next month here are the county party leadership elections. Soon after that are state party leadership elections. That's steps 1 and 2. Precinct delegates are where it starts. That election here is every two years and most people are unopposed. There's the opening.
The object wasn't to stop Hillary. It was to split the vote and divide the democrats like Perot divided the Republicans (which is the only reason Clinton got reelected). Many of those Hillary supporters voted for our guy after that because the dems tried to push their gal back out of the picture - and they "abused her."
There are still plenty of patriots. The just tend not to congregate within the power structure of the useless and feckless gop.
The Rats have been doing their own Chaos Operations for decades.
They infiltrate GOP campaigns (like the GOP staffer for another campaign who exposed Mark Foley in 2006).
They cross over into open primaries and vote for the weakest candidate.
They fund phony conservative congressional candidates to siphon votes away from the real conservatives.
They kept the McCain campaign alive when it was on the verge of collapse
in the primaries.
They have penetrated Fox News, the WSJ, and other “fair and balanced”
media.
Just like actual rats, they are highly adaptable, omnivorous political animals. They feed on garbage, defecate false accusations wherever they want, multiply prolifically, spread diseased ideas like socialism, and gnaw at the fabric of society in all 50 states.
That’s what they do and why they win.
Then what are YOU going to do to make sure we don't have a Dole/McCain/Romney type again as the nominee. I don't want to see that either. That starts now by the way, not in 2015 Iowa. Most top presidential candidates are governors, and a lot of governors are up in 2014.
It's easy to say you aren't holding your nose again. It's harder to do the work to make sure we don't have another bad nominee.
The ONE realistic way of something outside of changing the Republican party is to form a PAC, recruit good candidates who know what they are doing, back those candidates and get them elected.
Promote the Constitution Party nominee, that's what I'm going to do. Unless an actual Tea Party candidate runs on that platform. The GOP is dead to me.
And that's the problem in the first place for two reasons.
1. Primary voters weren't informed.
2. Those of us who are informed aren't informing the primary voters. That starts long before primary season, too.
It’s hard when the biggest solidly Republican state, Texas, doesn’t even get a say as to who the nominee is......Texas should be the first primary.
The object wasn’t to stop Hillary. It was to split the vote and divide the democrats like Perot divided the Republicans (which is the only reason Clinton got reelected).
I’ve been corrected many times already.
But thanks.
boehner is one of them. he’s the rino enemy behind our lines. he must be defeated.
Northeast/Mid Atlantic
South
Great Lakes
Texas and Great Plains
Pacific
Mountain
The way that will change, if ever, will be through state party committee and through RNC. I think it will change soon with the aggressive primary moves by everyone these days.
Boehner is to the Democrats, what the Washington Generals are to the Harlem Globetrotters.
I don’t think he’s a RINO, but I think he’s weak and that’s just as bad. He needs a primary. He’s gone native.
Somebody here proposed having the primaries in order of the states which had the highest Republican turnout in the last general election. I like it for several reasons, one of which is that it encourages more Republicans to turn out to vote in “safe states”. Also the states with more Republicans reduce the chances that Democrats voting across party lines will affect the outcome.
yes. do that. we need people on the corrupt inside, especially in the states. the red states are where we make our last stand.
but, we conservatives on the outside will have to unify behind our own candidate selection mechanism, independent of the rep party. the time has come.
we have to be unified *before* the rep primaries start.
The “fiscal cliff” is propaganda to promote European-style consensus from the major parties on “austerity measures.”
Any deal or automatic measures that kick in as the result of no deal are band-aids to cover the massive debt problem that will eventually explode in Europe and here.
Spending will remain out of control whether there is a deal or not.
Any politicians in power, Republicans or Democrats, will pay a price when the debt bubble finally bursts, so all the pressure from “leaders” to come up with a band-aid deal before the new year.
Another band-aid to delay the inevitable financial collapse-disaster.
HELLO, LURKING DEMOCRATS! HELLO!
Sobber of The House Boehner has just told his loyal RINOs how you Democrats can win, Win, WIN EVERY political point, debate, confrontation, demand, or agruement!
Boehner has thrown in the towel for as looooooooooooooooooong as those sorry RINOs loyally keep his sorry behind as Speaker of the House!
This is great news for you Democrats! And you didn’t even have to win at the Ballot Box!
Sobber of The House John Boehner has AGAIN snatched defeat from the jaws of victory! You Democrats may as well go on vay-cay, as you now have control of The US House too!
What? You don’t understand?
Okay, here is Boehner’s main instruction to his loyal RINOs in The House:
” - - - with the impending fiscal battle, they had to avoid the nasty showdowns - - -. “
That means that ALL you Democrats have to do to win a Cave-In from Boehner is to:
1.) create a showdown;
2.) play on Boehner’s fear of the showdown becoming nasty,
or 3.) by yourselves make the showdown nasty, (your clue as to the level of perceived “nastyness” will be the number of tears per minute in Boehner’s eyes).
Boehner is scared of nasty showdowns,
Boehner is scared of nasty showdowns,
Boehner is scared of nasty showdowns,
Boehner is scared of nasty showdowns.
BTW, you don’t suppose that Boehner is being “flexible” with the “Comprehensive, Grand Bargain, Sequestration, Fiscal Cliff, Kick-the-can-down-the-road-again Deal” that he is trying to make with Obama?
Might be that Boehner agree to avoid being “nasty” in return for Obama getting everything that Obama wants?
What a perfect Lose-Lose RINO Cave-In!
Similar Boehner deals have worked out that way, such as the last Debt Ceiling deal - - - .
Yup, we have a Speaker of the House, turned Sobber of The House, who is dedicated to Cave-In to all Democrats, and thus continue the very long RINO Legacy: “Lose at all costs.”
Got it, we need candidates like (Rand) Paul, Rubio, Cruz and Mike Lee. They all defeated GOP half-assers. You’re correct about the numbskulls like Akin...I’m still wondering how somebody so stupid (or too lazy to rehearse stock answers) could ever get so far.
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