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Updated from my original anger induced thoughts on Tuesday
1 posted on 11/10/2012 6:36:09 PM PST by military cop
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To: military cop

and we need fraud repellent


2 posted on 11/10/2012 6:38:47 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: military cop

You have captured a lot of good tactical stuff here.

I would emphasize the fact that this is an information war. Just ask the simple question: “What did Bush do” and everyone hears the same mantra “Bush lied, people died”. Who needs a Manchurian Candidate when you have a Manchurian Country? The other side is very good at planting these messages and nurturing them, and we stand around with thumbs up our butts. Here’s another one: Why has it been tough for Obama to make change? Answer: “because of the mess he inherited”....

We hear this crap and cringe, but for the average person - this is ALL they hear. It’s all the media presents (thanks to JournoList, they all use exactly the same words at the same time) and it’s crafted to be memorable and something that sticks in the brain when repeated over and over, just like any great advertising slogan.

It’s PsyOps. They’ve been using these techniques and we haven’t....why is that?

They have NPR, the Main Steam Media, the unionized teachers, the university professors, the movie and music entertainment industry and every democrat politician delivering and reinfocing the same message day in day out.

What do we have? Hannity reading off his endless mantra of talking points, having become so boring that even conservatives wish Alan Colmes was back on his show...

Rush? Sure if you’re home during the day and can listen to AM radio or download a podcast. Yeah, that’s going to offset the Daily Show, the View, and Piddly Diddy alright...

We need better rules of engagement, better tactics, and some leadership that gets it.


4 posted on 11/10/2012 6:57:02 PM PST by bigbob
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To: military cop
Adding to what you have written ...A View from Abroad

Some editing of the 6 points in that 'report from Germany,' so that it reads a little easier ...

1) That the Democrats clearly have a more effective team operating in the field. For example, my debate opponent from Democrats Abroad had been to many, many Democrat Party training events in DC and had a direct line to vast numbers of not only politicians but also access to an entire administrative support network at party headquarters. All during the night, he knew in real time from party HQ specific exit poll data for strategic zip codes and indicated that the local leaders were reacting in real time to rush in any potential reserves of voters who may not have already voted in those precincts. In other words, they have "troops" in the voting field with multiple levels of leaders and a powerful admin support. If need be, these "troops" will hand carry a voter in to secure the vote.

2) They have an incredible amount of specific data [* see after 6, below] about not only their own constituents but about the demographics of their voters, potential voters, where they live, their occupations (note I didn't say work) , their affiliations (ie churches, unions, social clubs)---and how to get them to actually commit the act of voting. All of this on a house to house basis for strategic precincts.

Here I don't mean general data like X% are in the union but specifics like which specific churches in Cleveland will help organize car pools to get voters in specific neighborhoods into the voting booth. Or making sure that specific local union offices are coordinating their efforts with other union halls, social clubs and church groups in specific areas to achieve a huge turnout in their precincts. Or what powerful local community leaders can be counted on to bring their flock into the voting booth. And all of it is gamed out well in advance of the election.

In their world, they are very, very, very close to their voters and handle them directly just like their vision of the Nanny State handling citizens. The data is provided by their field operations and continually updated at all times---not only at election times. And furthermore, they seem to have a surprising amount of specific demographic data about Republican voters--or at least about strategic concentrations of them. On one level, this capability could be comparable to the depth of market data that a route salesman would be expected to know about his territory and customers. On another level, this deep capability covers at least all strategically important geographic areas and is strategically managed with the professionalism of military intelligence resources.

3) They have a very effective communications system which coordinates efforts of Nr1 and Nr2 from the head of the snake all the way down to street level "troops". It works reliably and their team knows how to use it.

4) Since the 2000 election, I have been aware that their team routinely takes advantage of vast pro democrat sentiments overseas to gain

a)fundraising from abroad through donations to groups like Democrats Abroad,

b) foreign citizens who volunteer to operate programs like phone banks, websites, social media, mailings which can be managed from Europe for example but used to back up the election effort stateside, and

c) large armies of energetic Europeans (ie students but also sometimes retirees) who take "vacations" to the USA during vote season and "volunteer" as free manpower to help field operations of democrats. To them, this is a fun way to experience the American Dream while helping achieve success for the candidate of their choice (always a democrat). How many are there? Probably many thousands--but there is no way to tell since they are not officially working.

5) When elections are coming up, the Democrats do not set up operations to win the election [as the Republicans do]. The Democrats ALWAYS have their program running at some ongoing medium level and simply rev it up to speed during elections...

[G]enerally speaking, there is never a stop to campaigning and field work designed to maintain heavy voter levels. So bear in mind that, today is not the end of an election where they pack up and go home until next time like Republicans do...

The first thing they [the Democrats] are going to do, is to figure out how this election was won and start gaming out the next election. Seriously, they probably already have started figuring out how to win the 2016 election even if they aren't sure yet which candidates will be chosen for which jobs. In many ways, their operations work like the U.S. Army where there are many levels of leaders, deep bench strength of future leaders, mentoring, training and clear leadership development programs so that they will never be caught with their pants down and not have leaders who can take over wherever and whenever. This is not the case with the Republican party for sure.

6) Demographics are going against us, and the demographic groups that traditionally support democrats are growing while those who traditionally support republicans are shrinking. In other words, in future elections, it will be much harder to defeat democrats at the national level ----that is unless there is a way to convince these lucrative voter groups who support democrats right now that it is a better idea to support Republican candidates. Obviously this is a really serious issue which will cause huge debate.... But bear in mind that if Puerto Rico becomes a state, then there will immediately be two more senators and some more congressmen who will certainly voter with Obama's crew unless something else changes.

* Inside the Secret World of the Data Crunchers Who Helped Obama Win

5 posted on 11/10/2012 7:15:47 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: military cop

I agree with everything you said except this: “The hispanic issue is RIPE for moving into the red. Catholic, family oriented cultures who beleive in being left alone and naturally distrust the government.”

The Mexicans I know are very happy with the Left and free stuff! They work under the table, carry wads of cash and pay NO income taxes. They get housing assistance, electric assistance, food stamps, free educations and free medical care and Obamaphones, yet they hate America.

They open illegal businesses and get away with breaking our laws because no one will enforce the laws. They are a protected group and above the laws that you and I are subject to.

Catholic? Not so much, in name only. Family yes. They will not go red in any sense of the word. They know where their bread is buttered. They will never go conservative and the democrats know it.

Republicans need to wake the heck up and insist on enforcing immigration laws and mandatory IDs at the voting booth. They are cutting their own throats by thinking hispanics will vote for them. It just isn’t going to happen.


6 posted on 11/10/2012 7:24:25 PM PST by stilloftyhenight
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Heard an interesting interview on a Hannity recorded program today with Frank Luntz about how conservatives communicate. One point was that as long as we adopt the language of Karl Marx to explain our economic leanings, i.e. “capitalism”, we don’t stand a chance.

I think there’s a lot of truth to that. People yearn for “economic freedom,” not “capitalism”. There are other instances as well.


7 posted on 11/10/2012 7:25:37 PM PST by gotribe
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. . . true conservatives MUST take steps to irradicate the ignorance of the Republican Party . . .

The word is "eradicate," unless you meant "irradiate," which I'd go for. Or perhaps you were inventing a new Palinism (like "refudiate") to combine the two words.

10 posted on 11/10/2012 8:19:10 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: military cop

Wow, there are some really great ideas here. Let me add some thoughts to help in my own way.

It’s not helpful for us to throw rocks at the Republican Party, because we are the Republican Party. If the party is going against conservative principles, and I believe it is, we need to overthrow the leadership and point it back in the right direction. Throwing support to the Libertarians or the Constitution Party or any other third party is a sure recipe for continued losses. As I understand it, the first step in the process is to volunteer to be a Precinct Committeeman. That is the “grass roots” level of party membership, the folks who get together and decide who’s going to be on the ballot for local Republican-supported positions. If the RNC wants to run a RINO for some office, the Precinct Committemen can outvote them and put in a true conservative. The organization and leadership of the county and state Republican party members are a mystery to me, but I’m sure it’s possible to find out how those are put together and run conservative candidates for those positions. I would bet that the state party leaders have something to do with selecting RNC leadership positions, so that’s the next step. It doesn’t help us to stand over here in the corner and complain about “those guys over there.” Let’s make the RNC something we can be proud of.

I’ve heard from a friend who went to some meetings with his local Congressional Representative that the House Republicans are very disillusioned with Boehner and would like to see him step down as Speaker of the House. So we may see a positive development there. I don’t know that McConnell is all that bad. Last I heard, he was still standing up to Harry Reid and vowing that Republican Senators would be part of the legislative process or there would be no process at all.

I agree with you about Marco Rubio. He is a true conservative and his background is impeccable. The worst thing I ever read about him was something about what his brother in law did once, if I recall correctly. The MSM really struggled to come up with that, and it was all they had. Drudge had a headline about him travelling to Iowa the day after the election, so he’s in people’s thoughts. Something else I was thinking about rising stars: if Allen West does lose his election, he would make an excellent RNC chairman.

I really don’t like to see people playing the race card, but at some point the Republicans may need to think about doing that in self defense. We don’t really think about race when we think about Republicans, because we’re all Americans. That opens the door for the lefties to say that the Tea Party is mostly old white guys. So we may need to form some subgroups for women and blacks and Latinos and whatever “diversity” indicators we can come up with. Then when the lefties come up with their statements that we have no “people of color” with us, the Black Republicans can issue a strongly-worded statement of indignation about the insensitivity and ignorance of Democrats.

The GOP.com website is an absolute disaster from the standpoint of campaigning. Right there on the first page they should have a group of links to stories about how Obama and the Democrats have failed to govern the country with any kind of competence. Instead, it looks like a website for people who are curious about what is a Republican and where can I go to find out? The RNC must have sent me 30-40 mailings in the last four years asking for money. It was a complete waste. They should stop all those mailings and start buying billboard space, saying things with very few words like like “Obama lost 50,000 jobs in December. RNC.ORG” And then have the same exact wording right on the front page of their website, with links to documented news stories and interviews with the affected workers. And this needs to start TODAY, not in 2015! The MSM isn’t going to talk about Obama’s failures, and lefties won’t listen to right wing talk radio, but the billboards will get their attention and maybe get us some media time too.

And no offense, but we need to communicate our ideas in plain language, not with acronyms and code words like COIN and SOF. But you are right on the money about attacks and ridicule and scorn. We are horrible at that. Instead of saying “Here’s how Republicans could do it better,” we should be saying “Look at what the Democrats have done now to screw up the country even more, those incompetent, fumble-fingered idiots.”

Good discussion, great ideas, excellent topic. Now let’s get together and make it happen!


13 posted on 11/10/2012 10:26:26 PM PST by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: military cop

Rubio is for the “Dream act” and “comprehensive immigration reform” I.e. amnesty. Hispanics, like blacks vote for who is going to give them other people’s stuff. Legalize a significant portion of illegals and the Republicans will never win another election.p>
We have turn out the White vote, period. Convince young voters that IF they get a job they will be paying for their pot smoking, Cheetos eating buddies to sit on the couch and play video games.


14 posted on 11/10/2012 11:13:29 PM PST by Eagles6 (DNC 2012 Convention: Celebrating infanticide and sodomy. Denying God.What could possibly go wrong?)
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