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To: Utmost Certainty
“A spontaneous order is a system which has developed not through the central direction or patronage of one or a few individuals but through the unintended consequences of the decisions of myriad individuals each pursuing their own interests through voluntary exchange, cooperation, and trial and error. This process of spontaneous evolution is not restricted to explaining the growth of the economic order but can also account for the development of language, money, culture, law, social conventions and even morals and ethics. Although the spontaneous order develops through individuals pursuing their own interest, the individuals still behave by following commonly held rules rather than by acting in a random fashion, and these rules are themselves the product of evolution.” –Friedrich A. Hayek

It is ironic that you quote this on your page YET apparently have no concept of what it means? RE:

Running on social values is the deluded fantasy. And it’s precisely what’s killing the GOP with younger voters in particular. I’m around people in their 20s and 30s quite a bit, and this is what I consistently hear from them they find alienating about the current GOP platform.

I suggest more Hayek for you -maybe you will finally "get it"?

The Constitution of Liberty: Friedrich A. Hayek

46 posted on 11/10/2012 7:52:09 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers
Hayek didn't believe in imposing one's own moral/social values upon society, but contended that it was best to allow society to spontaneously evolve in an organic, self-ordering manner. No social-engineering.

I'm not sure social conservatives would find Hayek much to their liking… for instance, from his essay Why I Am Not a Conservative (Note: 'liberal' here means classical-liberal):

The typical conservative is indeed usually a man of very strong moral convictions. What I mean is that he has no political principles which enable him to work with people whose moral values differ from his own for a political order in which both can obey their convictions. It is the recognition of such principles that permits the coexistence of different sets of values that makes it possible to build a peaceful society with a minimum of force. The acceptance of such principles means that we agree to tolerate much that we dislike. There are many values of the conservative which appeal to me more than those of the socialists; yet for a liberal the importance he personally attaches to specific goals is no sufficient justification for forcing others to serve them. I have little doubt that some of my conservative friends will be shocked by what they will regard as "concessions" to modern views that I have made in Part III of this book. But, though I may dislike some of the measures concerned as much as they do and might vote against them, I know of no general principles to which I could appeal to persuade those of a different view that those measures are not permissible in the general kind of society which we both desire. To live and work successfully with others requires more than faithfulness to one's concrete aims. It requires an intellectual commitment to a type of order in which, even on issues which to one are fundamental, others are allowed to pursue different ends.

It is for this reason that to the liberal neither moral nor religious ideals are proper objects of coercion, while both conservatives and socialists recognize no such limits. I sometimes feel that the most conspicuous attribute of liberalism that distinguishes it as much from conservatism as from socialism is the view that moral beliefs concerning matters of conduct which do not directly interfere with the protected sphere of other persons do not justify coercion. This may also explain why it seems to be so much easier for the repentant socialist to find a new spiritual home in the conservative fold than in the liberal.

52 posted on 11/10/2012 9:01:56 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: DBeers

All those brats were indoctrinated by Cultural Marxists. The solution is to fight cultural Marxism, not give up to the Gramsciites.


76 posted on 11/12/2012 7:12:21 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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