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To: bray

It doesnt matter what you run..dems own the country now..by cheating bribes and lies.


3 posted on 11/10/2012 6:08:06 AM PST by dalebert
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To: dalebert
It doesnt matter what you run..dems own the country now..by cheating bribes and lies.

I've got to agree with that. But don't forget to add "their complete control over the media" to your list.

This is a brand new ball game. One team gets eight downs to make a first down, and also gets to pick the officials. The other team only gets two downs.

I really don't see the GOP winning a nation election again unless the dem's make a very drastic mistake, one that the media just can't ignore.

GOP = the next Whig party

6 posted on 11/10/2012 6:18:03 AM PST by Leaning Right
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-- It doesnt matter what you run..dems own the country now. --

The political class, a part of the "elites," is not like the common man. At bottom, each individual in that class "wins" by getting office, and it doesn't matter which of the two parties they join to get "in." If one party is losing, and right now the GOP is, the same politician might join the DEMs for a better chance at getting "in." The reverse can happen too. Boehner (just to pick an example) doesn't hold any deep political principle, although he mouths certain ones in order to maintain his elected office.

It's is naive to think that the elites are going to voluntarily reduce their own number, or their own influence. This is "law of jungle" played out on a gentleman's battlefield, with voters being misled into a feeling of empowerment by having the vote. I think the voter participation in Saddam Hussein's Iraq was higher than the voter participation in the USA.

The two party formula is tried and proven. All of the elites, elected politicians, judges, etc., all of them claim to be abiding by the same constitution, the same limits of government power.

17 posted on 11/10/2012 7:32:14 AM PST by Cboldt
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