Posted on 11/10/2012 12:13:30 AM PST by JerseyanExile
LOL, you Romney devotees want to keep his liberal political agenda alive, even after he is no longer running.
I’m glad that this isn’t a republican site.
OK,we lost the election. Conservative Republicans and Independents should not alter their ideals to please the opposition. In two years the unemployment rates will be much higher and the the economy will be in worse shape ala
Greece and Turkey. Hopefully the elecorate pendulum will swing back to the right.
According to a recent Pew poll a majority of Hispanics support gay marriage. By this election’s exit polling, they support abortion at a greater level than voters generally. And a majority of Hispanic children are born to unwed mothers.
Just how are they ‘socially conservative’?
Its not an Obama site either, and yet you keep supporting him.
For example ... In my experience I have come across very few Asian immigrants who are "independent-minded" in the way we would use this term to describe Americans. Their best and brightest usually find themselves into large bureaucratic organizations where success is manifested behind the scenes. Think of a top doctor in a major medical center, or a top scientist at a major U.S. university research center.
Secondly (and related to the previous point), I think most Asians are fully comfortable with the idea of a powerful, paternalistic government. In fact, they have expectations for it. Just take a look at some photos of those well-manicured, uniformed transit workers who cram passengers into subway trains in Tokyo during rush hour every day. That kind of denigrating passivity is completely alien even to fourth-generation welfare queens in the U.S.
Lastly, I've been completely shocked by just how ignorant Asians are about how the U.S. works ... not just the political issues of the day, but how the political system works. A perfect illustration of this was a conversation I had with a successful middle-aged guy whose parents were immigrants from Asia. It was during an election campaign (2000, I think) and he was disappointed because he couldn't vote for "his candidate." I pried a bit, and learned that "his candidate" was George W. Bush. I assumed he meant that he wasn't registered to vote, but when I asked about it, it turns out I was wrong.
"Oh, I'm registered to vote," he said, "but I can't vote for him because I'm registered as a Democrat."
I couldn't believe how simplistic and downright ignorant this guy was. And he was a successful business owner, too.
I finally explained the whole thing to him and told him he could vote for any candidate on the ballot, but I did have one request for him: "Please call all your friends and family members and tell them to stay home on Election Day, dude."
Asians are highly educated and hardworking but they are also playing to win and the government is winning them with either direct employment or contracted work with government. A clear example: Healthcare reform is designed to get more armies of consultants and government contracting people to form and lead “Accountable Care Organizations.” Democrats all.
Even though they are highly educated and paid, a lot of Asians don’t make it into management (upper or otherwise) because of their English/social skills. So, they end up working for white people who they may consider to be inferior in terms of technical skill. I think this grates on many of them, even (as is noted) they do much better than the average white.
I think you are on to something there (my wife is Chinese).
Even they get the Affirmative Action jobs, good jobs in Govt and engineering.
You are the one who said you were never a republican.
With my connections to the university and family who are Japanese, I want to offer this. At the university, there are several East Indian’s and they vote democrat and with Asian’s (oriental) at least within my family, they don’t involve themselves in the political process too much which is a shame. If the GOP is going to win the W.H. we need to win states like CA, OR and WA but also states in the Northeast. With CA, we may not have much chance with the Hispanics but the Asian’s can be our ticket. Personally, I have a lot of respect for the Asian’s for their smarts, drive and their hard/smart work.
One way to appeal to them would be
- GOP support for families and their success
- support their success in business and how we can help them succeed since the democrats like to punish business
- show how the democrats don’t favor them or their family’s well being in terms on how they want to penalize business
- with the East Indian’s, don’t know much about their culture but we need to do in some way to appeal to them and get them to vote GOP.
Bottom line, we need to find ways to start winning the NE and West Coast states. One way is take it from Tip O’Neil - all politics are local and how the democrats were able to at one time win the South even though they were very liberal. Get GOP folks into local offices in the various towns, counties plus it offers name recognition as well.
Wait until China craters, they have started sending their money out of country now. Their kids are coming over here for school; many are staying. The 73% that voted for Obama are the ones here earlier like Hawaii.
What about whites? Oh, that’s right. They just don’t matter anymore.
Import more Filipinos. They are the best and hardest working people I’ve ever known. They are reliably republican voters all in all.
As for other Asians, I agree with you that where they live is a big factor. Here in Hawaii the Japanese/Chinese run the democrat government. I go into DOE - Dept of Education - offices and it is 80% Japanese/Chinese. Likewise just about everywhere else.
Racial politics, esp in Hawaii is fascinating. The Japanese and Chinese hold the other races down including us haoles. Filipinos and Hawaiians are at the bottom rung of the ladder.
The difference is that Filipinos work hard to strive and see the republican party as their only way up. Hawaiians mostly depend on Santa Claus.
P.S. Michelle Malkin is Filipino.
Has anyone heard of any strong conservative voice that is either Japanese or Chinese ?
Thus proves my point from the previous post.
That, also, is puzzling to me.
That is correct, I am a lifelong Independent that has worked on many republican campaigns, even as many as three at a time, and mixing paid and unpaid work, all to advance conservatism.
I don’t belong to any Republican internet sites, do you?
South Koreans.
Where I live recently arrived (within the past 20 years) 'asians', or whatever specific ethnicity makes up asians, usually have at least one family member on public assistance, usually granny or grandaddy. The cost of the old folks far exceeds the cost in addn'l taxes Jr and his wife would pay to support them.
It should be no mystery anymore - people vote for whomever puts the most $$$ in their pocket.
What a novel idea!
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