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To: DJ MacWoW

Will you stop with the Obama didn’t win any state that has voter ID laws crap? I live in OH and we HAVE voter ID - and obama took Ohio. Probably fraudulently, but he won it just the same. I keep reading this same line on every thread and its not true.


18 posted on 11/09/2012 4:03:57 PM PST by Catsrus (WANT)
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To: Catsrus
If your aim was "rude", you succeeded.

FUN FACT: Obama Lost in Every State with a Voter Photo-ID Law

What Luck! Obama Won Dozens of Cleveland Districts with 100% of the Vote

Good News: Obama Won County in Ohio with 108% Voter Registration

Colorado Counties Have More Voters Than People

Obama Got Over 99% of Vote Where Inspectors were Removed; Turnout Somehow "30%" Above Gov't Numbers

22 posted on 11/09/2012 4:13:12 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: Catsrus
To: DJ MacWoW
Will you stop with the Obama didn’t win any state that has voter ID laws crap? I live in OH and we HAVE voter ID - and obama took Ohio.

She is a Birther, so don't expect something like facts keep her from posting fantasy.

50 posted on 11/09/2012 9:48:09 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: Catsrus; mojito; Pilsner; DJ MacWoW

Ohio does not require a voter ID, as in an ID with a photo.

Ohio allows a voter to, at the last moment, fill out a provisional ballot, using *a copy* of a utility bill, or *a copy* of a government check made out to the voter ... as just a couple examples of low-grade authentication.

Quite literally millions of people could vote that way on election day.

It remains the duty of each county’s board of elections plus the Ohio Sec’y of State office, to challenge/investigate every single provisional ballot-voter’s authenticity.

This provisional-ballot-voting method forces all such jurisdictions and their taxpayers to come up with a process for thoroughly completing that task of double-checking the validity of the provisional-voter’s claimed authentication.

The investigation can sometimes be completed via Internet searches and then comparing notes with voting records-and-activity, but for many cases, the board of elections investigators must go to the alleged/claimed address used for the provisional ballot.

It is a logistical problem, and usually only some portion of provisional ballots are investigated -— sets of districts/precincts of a few counties, unless some statistical analysis of the tabulated data reveals reasonable probability of fraud or technical failure.

In Ohio, you must be a registered voter to vote, and you must be a U.S. citizen.

Unfortunately, where you would have expected each Sec’y of State in the Union, to challenge the authenticity of Barack H. Obama’s birth/birthplace, they typically do not; rather, they “leave that problem to later court challenges.”

Similarly, the test of U.S. citizenship for every voter registered in Ohio -— *it is not checked* unless there arises some “reasonable ...” that triggers a bureaucratic response and investigation.

Making matters worse, the duration of residency in Ohio, is now only “30 days immediately before the election in which you vote.” You may begin to realize why inner-city politicos rebel against the destruction of abandoned structures; it is a simple matter to not spend time in Ohio but be a “30 day resident with a copy of an electric bill.”

Basically, all you need to do, is succeed at acquiring *A COPY* of an electric bill or bank statement that has your name and Ohio address on it ... *BEFORE* the 30th day that is *BEFORE* the election ... and be registered to vote by no later than that “30th day that is *BEFORE* the election.”

Note, the law does not require that any money be shown on the electric bill or bank statement - the *copy* only has to show your name and address.

Statistically, some provisional ballots with such “backing that is fraudulent,” are thrown out, but again, statistics are relied upon. That is, after finding and throwing out, for example, “2,232 provisional ballots,” *statistics tell us that the odds of finding ‘the next’ trove declines in terms of the number of votes.* So, if a vote is close, that next trove will be looked for, but if the vote is not close, then ‘the next’ trove is *not* looked for, and so on ... as statistics are relied upon instead of deliberation.

Yeah, you’re right -— for us, IT IS IMPORTANT -— but it’s just a job for the bureaucrats who do not feel much pressure from the public, to investigate both the validity of registration and the validity of provisional ballots.

The law says, Don’t do this or that, but enforcing the law, does not happen at the polls - *NOBODY* in Ohio is challenged to prove their U.S. citizenship on election day at a poll. *ONLY* Ohio residency is challenged, very weakly, and after election day, *ONLY* sporadic, subsequent investigations of some relatively few provisional ballots and voter registrations occur.

On this occasion, you can thank the Ohio Republican Party, for its “poor execution” (to borrow a term that excites “corporate American” management types who bungled communications and field operations for the Romney campaign) /sarcasm.


58 posted on 11/11/2012 7:27:26 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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