More Navy leaders relieved of duty after rowdy port visit

MyNorthwest.com ^ | November 8, 2012 @ 10:32 pm (Updated: 8:31 am - 11/9/12 ) | Linda Thomas

[onedoug]

Remembering Brian, 68-69 Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club

From yesterdays when we yet thought we were winning....

[mylife]

Commander Dalek sez: "Where is the party?"

[mylife]

Brian was a great guy.

[reed13k]

Hardly - Nimitz ran a ship aground and was reprimanded but it didn’t end his career the way it would today. Numerous others in leadership from the past including my own personal witness were party to rabble rousing, skirt chasing, heavy drinking, and plenty of pranks - all of which would cost careers today independent of rank - but they could fight a war. Halsey was known for his skirt chasing and drinking but he knew how to fight. So the standard has changed from the past as to what is acceptable before a career is killed .... the real question is what impact does killing those careers have on the fighting capability of the fleet. Not that there will be much of a fleet anyway once Obama is done...maybe that’s it they’re just gettin an early start on the RIF.

[oh8eleven]

The tales he tells of his port calls would curl the hair of these modern day sailors.
I was USMC arty and after 13 months in VN was sent to Camp Lejeune. Probably 80% of the the battery was recently returned 'Nam vets.
Six weeks later we embarked on a 5 month Carib Cruise along with a battalion of grunts ... of whom, probably 80% were just out of 'Nam too.
We were all so full of pent up anger, anxiety, vinegar & piss, we had a profoundly "negative impact" on every liberty port we went into.

[RichInOC]

This is what happens when you try to go drink for drink with the Russians.

[RichInOC]

This is what happens when you try to go drink for drink with the Russians.

[RitchieAprile]

Curious that higher standards of deportment were not insisted upon given the port call was in Russia. It would seem to me that keeping a higher lever of awareness and alert would be especially important in the port of a rival power.

How many of the sailors have clearances, and how vulnerable is
what they know subject to disclosure under the influence of vodka and/or babes?

[Will88]

You mean to tell me there’s drinking in the Navy?? I’m shocked.

Never noticed any drinking during my two years of reserve active duty. Certainly no rowdy behavior in foreign ports.

[elpadre]

roger - I stand corrected

Actually I have known many academy grads over the years, now retired, all of whom were the finest of men in every way.

[Tijeras_Slim]

Doug was an exceptional man. I have met his Father on several occasions here in New Mexico.

[USNBandit]

When I was at Annapolis the Deputy Commandant was a relative of one of my good friends. He had a son that was in high school at the time.

The guys that were shot down going to get Marcus Lutrell and his team were led by a SEAL Lieutenant Commander. He was that high school kid I had met when I was a Mid. Despite seeing pictures or him all grown up, I will always think of him as that kid.

This war is a just one, but we are constantly losing people because we won't fight to win. We don't have to lower ourselves to the level of the savages we are fighting. We have need to remember that it is better to be respected than to be liked by the people in those countries.