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1 posted on 11/09/2012 5:13:11 AM PST by Kaslin
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In for a penny, in for a Euro

Let's just have a Constitution Convention and get it over with.

Our current form of government is synonymous with old white men... Washington, Jefferson.Adams Madison for example We might as well flush the Constitution down to toilet because it is not worth the paper we wipe our behinds with. Parliament anyone?

2 posted on 11/09/2012 5:25:32 AM PST by RonnG
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It occurred to me how hard it’s going to be to reverse Obamacare now.

It’s extremely unlikely anything could happen in the next four years now - I can’t imagine we get a supermajority in the senate next election - only 1/3rd of the senate runs at a time and a good portion of them will be Republicans and Democrats in secure seats. So, nothing’s going to happen with it until the start of 2017 at the earliest.

Most of Obamacare has not yet taken effect yet. Come the start of next year a series of similarly seemingly insignificant portions of the bill hit - medicare payment bundling, extensions to CHIP, etc. But it’s the start of 2014, just over a year from now, that all of the major provisions hit - preexisting condition bans, coverate limit bans, the creation of the “exchanges” (which include a stealth public option), expansion of medicare, health tax credits for uninsured individuals making under $43k and married couples making under $88k, a corresponding credit for businesses, and of course, to go with those, the mandates to buy coverage.

These will be in place for nearly three years before the election. You know how hard it is to get people off the government’s teat once they get hooked to it (social security, medicare, etc)? 3 years is more than enough time to get people used to it. They’ll simply get used to being poorer and it’ll be easy to scare them about going back to a free market system.

It gets worse if we lose the house in 2014, and I know we don’t want to think about that, but as this election showed, whether from fraud, apathy, or complacency, we can’t simply count on votes to just go our way. If they get the house, or worse if they get enough RINOs to give them “bipartisan” cover, they’ll increase the subsidies for buying insurance while keeping the mandate and gaming the exchanges against the private insurers for the promotion of the public option. It’d end up a full-fledged European-style national health service, and could be in place for a year and a half before the 2016 election.


3 posted on 11/09/2012 5:46:21 AM PST by OldGuard1
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Basically what we have here is Democrats voting themselves goodies to be paid for by Republicans.
5 posted on 11/09/2012 6:35:53 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: Kaslin

America’s best days are behind her.


7 posted on 11/09/2012 8:24:30 AM PST by KansasGirl ("If you have a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."--B. Hussein Obama)
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To: Kaslin
I think that this paragraph from Bill Gertz is germane.

One of the biggest dangers to America is the professional bureaucrats in State, Defense, Justice and the White House executive staff. Many have an agenda that is "overwhelmingly dominated by the long-discredited left-liberal policies that came to dominate the worst of the Democratic Party in the 1960s and 1970s . . . experts estimate that the federal bureaucracy is overwhelmingly Democrat -- perhaps as much as 90 - 95 percent Democrat." Bill Gertz in his 2008 book, The Failure Factory.

Then of course above the bureaucracy there is the ruling class from that same era -- I remember them as Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, psycho spoiled brats..

Ladies and Gentlemen, all rise.. the ruling class of America and ideological issue, President of the United States Barack Obama..


10 posted on 11/09/2012 2:20:39 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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