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To: kabar
Obama was reelected with 50% of the vote. He has no mandate.

Show me where I said he has a mandate? He has power. We do not. We have a quivering USSC that just rubber stamped the government takeover of the health care industry. We have a minority of patriotic Americans in the house with the majority ready to vote a particular way after the threats. He has a giant bureaucracy that he is already using to crush his enemies (e.g. the USDOT harassing the coal industry truckers) He has the senate about to hit the nuke button. He has the entire media on his side, bar none. He has the "flexibility" to do whatever he wants and he will do it. For example, he will make electricity rates skyrocket as he said he would. He won't just target coal plants but natural gas as he said he would. He will hand China the rest of our energy-intensive industry. He will executive order amnesty. He will pack the court to get a rubber stamp to trash the rest of the constitution.

Mandate? Gimme a break, he has everything he needs.

157 posted on 11/09/2012 3:46:48 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: palmer
Show me where I said he has a mandate? He has power. We do not.

Here is what you wrote:

Why? Obama will have a poll with 75% of Americans and 99% of the media supporting him.

No, you didn't use the word mandate, but you describe someone that does. The only real poll was the election, Obama got 50% of the vote. The Reps retained control of the House by a comfortable margin.

Stop pushing this meme of an all powerful Obama who cannot be denied. The only real problem is if the Rep leadership in the House buys into this nonsense and fails to exercise its power--which is considerable.

And then there is the reality of our economy and the collapsing welfare state. We are broke and adding more debt, $4 billion a day. If interest rates go back up anywhere near what they were historically, our debt servicing costs will increase exponentially forcing far more cuts than sequestration. Our entitlement programs must be reformed sooner rather than later. What is Obama's plan? Will the 2% payroll tax holiday continue?

And then there is the implementation of the bad parts of Obamacare, i.e., the additional taxes, the establishment of the exchanges, the addition of 18 million to the Medicaid rolls, the activation of the IPAB that will reduce payments to hospitals and doctors and cause the loss of healthcare access for Medicare and Medicaid patients, the resistance of the states to the implementation of Obamacare (nullification), and a host of other problems associated with this 2700 page monstrosity that will kill hundreds of thousands of jobs and force more employers to stop providing healthcare and just pay the penalty.

Obama is also faced with a Europe going further into recession. Greece and Spain already have 25%+ unemployment rates. Iran still remains a growing problem. China is still a currency manipulator. The US continues to borrow 42 cents of every federal dollar spent. 10,000 people a day are retiring and will continue to do so for the next 20 years. We still have 47 million on food stamps.

Obama is facing huge problems. If he EOs an amnesty then everything else is just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. The Heritage Foundation concluded that the cost of amnesty would be $2.6 trillion just for increased entitlement program costs. And the number of additional LEGAL immigrants who would join those who were the recipients of amnesty through chain migration, i.e., family reunification, would approach 70 million over a 20-year period, assuming there are only 12 million illegal aliens. We cannot assimilate such numbers. An amnesty would destroy the United States of America with the stroke of a pen.

163 posted on 11/09/2012 5:32:33 AM PST by kabar
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