Posted on 11/07/2012 1:46:31 PM PST by ksen
Before rank-and-file conservatives ask, "What went wrong?", they should ask themselves a question every bit as important: "Why were we the last to realize that things were going wrong for us?"
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It ought to be an eye-opening moment. But I expect that it'll be quickly forgotten, that none of the conservatives who touted a polling conspiracy will be discredited, and that the right will continue to operate at an information disadvantage. After all, it's not like they'll trust the analysis of a non-conservative like me more than the numerous fellow conservatives who constantly tell them things that turn out not to be true.
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Did he hit his head on a rock or something?
Right!
At least some of us are smart enough to see what’s coming and will be prepared unlike the 49% who voted blindly for Obozo.
What's "coming" that some of us will be "prepard" for? What does that even mean?
Hahaha, no, I didn’t hit my head on a rock. I just started reading and exposing myself to things beyond the echo chamber.
Did you vote for Gary Johnson or Obama?
where was the turnout? R turnout was terrible
It's Jim's board so he can ban me if he wants to. I'm pretty sure I haven't tried to be incendiary especially after the election since I know FR is hurting pretty hard right now.
I voted libertarian in 2008 and this time I pulled the lever for Obama.
You have this idea that a flat universal healthcare is the best way now?
Romney was just a bad candidate for you guys. He did alright during the first debate and Obama not showing up for the first debate helped him a lot. But during the second two debates and the VP debate he and Ryan didn't differentiate themselves from the Obama administration. I distinctly remember hearing them agree with Obama policies a number of times and the one that stands out the most to me is when Ryan was talking down about the stimulus and Biden hitting him with the letters Ryan sent him asking for stimulus funds for his district in order to save jobs.
And if all you're going to give people is a choice between Obama and Obama-but-not-as-hard who do you think people will vote for?
Did you steal your dad’s laptop?
The fiscal cliff silly.
The truth comes out through HTML ...
Yes, I can't find the original article I read that convinced me about this but here's one that is very similar.
How I lost my fear of Universal Health Care
Universal Health Care is not the bugaboo the Right claims it is.
My question is why?
No, I didn’t steal my dad’s laptop. I bought my laptop, computer, big screen tv, kid’s schooling, etc with my own money.
But thanks for asking! ;)
Because I wasn’t about to vote for Mitt Romney. Obama’s relationship with big banks and wall street is bad enough. It’d be ten times worse under a Romney. Although Romney is an expert on debt and unemployment since he saddled enough companies with huge piles of debt and made sure lots of people lost their jobs.
Why can you not answer my simple question:
Conservatives have always been called liberals in other countries. Do you mean your now a socialists or a libertarian or what?
I prefer the term Individualist!
Even Individualists need a functioning society.
The problem with income equality and most of your other reasons is, ‘who gets to decide?’
I used to think of myself as a socialist (until I learned what it was) but even then I wondered who got to do the deciding, and how they got into positions of power to do the deciding.
Now I understand socialism is merely another, cleverer, way of establishing a rigid and immoveable elite who live well while issuing propaganda on ‘income equality’.
Unelected bureaucrats who can decide who gets what are in the final analysis bribeable. They take bribes.
Then you will get moved from category A, ‘rich’, to category B, ‘poor’, and recieve state funds on top of your other funds, priveliges. In Greece, I have read, bribes are simply offered in cash in envelopes.
zeestephen wrote:
“I suspect the 2012 results were equally shocking to the Democrat pollsters.
Did the new Democrat wonder boy Nate Silver predict that Obama would get 9 million fewer votes in 2012, and still win?”
exactly right ! the polls are mostly guessing, the errors associated with nonresponse bias, turnout modelling... etc. dwarf the sampling error.
Nate Silver is the hero of this election, but will be the goat the next time there is a major shift in voting behavior (like 1980)
he’s like an economic forecaster, works fine if this election is like the last election, but if something unexpected happens, he will never see it coming...
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