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Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham debate how Romney lost the election
Daily Caller ^ | November 6, 2012 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 11/07/2012 10:08:01 AM PST by Rufus2007

The shock of last night’s electoral outcome in the presidential race is setting in for some conservatives. But just how it was lost seems to be up for the debate.

On Laura Ingraham’s Wednesday radio show, conservative commentator Ann Coulter and Ingraham debated who is to blame. Coulter, author of “Mugged: Racial Demagoguery from the Seventies to Obama,” was less willing to fault the candidate Mitt Romney, while Ingraham put the loss mostly on the shoulders of those running the Romney campaign.

COULTER: I think Romney ran just on his own force of will, a magnificent campaign. I think he was the perfect candidate. INGRAHAM: Are you kidding me? You think he ran a magnificent campaign?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; bho44; election2012; lauraingraham; vote2012
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Not sure these are my first two choices of people to hear from after last night's disaster (especially after Coulter's Chris Christie cheerleading), but maybe the tipping point has already been crossed.
1 posted on 11/07/2012 10:08:08 AM PST by Rufus2007
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To: Rufus2007

All these political brainiacs to give their analysis on how Romney lost but the answer is simple. There are just more takers out there and they out number us.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 10:13:00 AM PST by Wiggins
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To: Rufus2007

The electorate has changed...it’s firggin’ goofy.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 10:13:09 AM PST by Rudder
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To: Rufus2007

Did Coulter have anything to say about her boy Christie doing his part in sinking Gov. Romney?


4 posted on 11/07/2012 10:13:13 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: Rufus2007

Coulter, both of your boys flubbed. When you see Christie again, thank him from the bottom of our hearts for that big hug he gave Commrade Barak Hussein!


5 posted on 11/07/2012 10:13:17 AM PST by lu shissler (an take his naiv)
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To: Rufus2007

The electorate has changed...it’s friggin’ goofy.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 10:13:28 AM PST by Rudder
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To: Rufus2007

As if either of them really has a clue. But, they do make oodles of money pretending they know.

What a great gig. Freakin’ Dick Morris and his “landslide”. I could just kick the little toe sucker’s butt right now. Instead, little Dickie gets to run to the bank with piles of cash.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 10:14:05 AM PST by brownsfan (It's over.)
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much better to debate how Obama won it without trying all that hard.

His campaign was a masterpiece of marketing and troops on the ground. The US has never experienced such, IMO


8 posted on 11/07/2012 10:14:47 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Rufus2007

During the primaries, Coulter & Drudge pushed Romney and ignored the others. Drudges headlines were all Romney all day.
(Don’t get me wrong—I believe Romeny is probably a great guy)

But—Romeny was not tough enough.
He ran a Mr Rogers campaign. Nice guy—not tough enough for dealing with the lying, dirty, cheating left.
Don’t bring a wet noodle to a smash fest.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 10:16:08 AM PST by two23
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To: Rufus2007

Anyone else having second thoughts on the 19th Amendment?


10 posted on 11/07/2012 10:16:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: brownsfan
Romney didn't lose it, Chris Christie didn't lose it. We just have to face it there is not as many of us conservatives as there are of them. Until we change that we will always lose. Past electoral history backs that up, as doe logic.

We have to figure out how to get more into our belief system. Not going to get there being exclusionary and blaming everyone of the change in our world. It is what it is. We can't change it till we get back in power. We can't get back in power till we change something about the way we do things, such as run campaigns.

11 posted on 11/07/2012 10:18:35 AM PST by lynn4303
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To: brownsfan

I am willing to stick with Ingraham, Coulter is a POS.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 10:19:51 AM PST by Taxachusan ("Let me be clear...and cheerful." Still #withNEWT in spirit)
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To: Rufus2007
Coulter is 100% right on this.

Now she needs to completely disown Christie. Her infatuation with that RINO jerk should be long over - she should acknowledge it publicly (and loudly) now, if she hasn't already.

13 posted on 11/07/2012 10:21:13 AM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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Coulter. Lost me with early pushing of Romney over a conservative


14 posted on 11/07/2012 10:23:50 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Rufus2007
Coulter should know better! On another thread, someone asked, "What do we need to do differently?" Good question!

Constitutional illiteracy, brought on by neglect of the ideas of liberty--that is the primary reason we are continuing on the road to tyranny under deficit, debt, and government control! The secondary reason is the GOP's failure to use its billion-dollar campaign to focus like a laser on educating voters!

During the primary season, one of my FR posts stated the following in response to a Jonah Goldberg comment about Romney:

Sorry, Jonah, but this is not as simple as "not speaking the language (of conservatism) naturally." When a person is steeped in the ideas of Jefferson, Adams, Madison, and Washington, it just "naturally" slips through in the ideas they convey. Remember Reagan?

Do Republicans seriously want to conserve America's constitutional principles? Or, are they just objecting to Democrats? Do they have a passion for liberty? Is this just about changing the Party in power, or is it about preserving freedom?

If their concern is for convincing enough voters to reject the idea of "a government big enough to give you everything you want" and turn to advocacy for "a government small enough to allow you freedom to keep most of what you earn," then they'd better get busy seeing that someone is nominated who has been "marinated" (to use a word coined by Ingraham last night on "The Factor") in the Founders' ideas (isn't that what conservatives purport to "conserve"?).

So far (February 2012), Mitt Romney, though a good man, demonstrates no such "immersion." He has been "successful" in benefiting from those ideas, and he recites familiar words and phrases from patriotic speeches and songs, but that is different from understanding and being able to call up and articulate the philosophy which made such success possible.

Ronald Reagan's life and letters reveal that he had "immersed" himself in those ideas for years before he agreed to run for President, and that is why he could set "issues" in light of constitutional "principle." and explain his advocacy or rejection of solutions in by that light.

The other three candidates in the Primary--Paul, Santorum, Gingrich--couch their answers to questions in a manner which indicates personal pursuit and understanding of the Constitution's protections, each in his own way.

Of the two so-called "frontrunners," however, the lifetime history scholar, teacher, legislator, and participant in what was called "the Reagan revolution," appears to be the one most likely to be able to successfully articulate and distinguish those ideas to voters, if given the chance to compete with the "counterfeit ideas" of tyranny cloaked in righteous benevolence by Obama.

Is "politics as usual" to win the day, or might we not bring Gingrich, Santorum, Paul, and others who embrace founding principles together to help to create a "passion" for liberty among citizens sufficient to defeat the counterfeit ideas which are leading the Republic to ruin?

The following is excerpted from "Our Ageless Constitution," p. 181:

"It was John Adams who said: "The foundation of every government is some principle or passion in the minds of the people." Clearly, the Founders' passion was liberty, and in order to secure that liberty, they sought out and incor­porated into the United States Constitution those ideas and principles embodied in the Declaration of Independence.

"The French historian, Guizot, once asked James Russell Lowell, "How long will the American republic endure?" Lowell replied: "As long as the IDEAS of the men who founded it continue dominant."

"Herein lies the answer to the question, "Will the Experiment Succeed?"

"It can and will succeed IF the motivating "principle or passion in the minds of the people" is LIBERTY, and if that passion causes them to exert the determination and will to complete the needed restoration of the IDEAS upon which the great American experiment was based." ---(End of excerpted material)

My call to the GOP and all lovers of liberty is the same as then! To rediscover and recover liberty from the hands of those who are turning America into just another failing nation dominated by a government-over-people ideology, a determined and massive education effort should begin November 7, 2012, focused on the teaching of the fundamental principles essential to the survival of individual liberty for a people.

15 posted on 11/07/2012 10:24:06 AM PST by loveliberty2
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The Conservative fighters split the vote of Conservatives once again and the rich, monied, supported by the establishment RINO won the primary again. We were doomed when everyone else ran out of money before a third of the country had a chance to vote for them.

Romney almost had it, when everyone rallied behind him anyway, but he went and blew it himself by playing safe.

Well, here we are. Drudge, Rove, Ingraham, and Coulter can eat nice fresh feces for their collective parts in this.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 10:24:14 AM PST by Dogbert41 ("...The people of Jerusalem are strong, because the Lord Almighty is their God" Zech. 12:5)
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To: Wiggins

Yep...we’re a Marxist state. It’s amazing how all these masterminds know what happened, but they couldn’t see it prior to it. They’re just capital!


17 posted on 11/07/2012 10:24:14 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Vaquero

Her and her buddy Drudge


18 posted on 11/07/2012 10:25:01 AM PST by two23
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To: lynn4303

“Romney didn’t lose it, Chris Christie didn’t lose it. We just have to face it there is not as many of us conservatives as there are of them. Until we change that we will always lose. Past electoral history backs that up, as doe logic.

We have to figure out how to get more into our belief system. Not going to get there being exclusionary and blaming everyone of the change in our world. It is what it is. We can’t change it till we get back in power. We can’t get back in power till we change something about the way we do things, such as run campaigns.”

I’m just annoyed with the talking heads. I bought their garbage hook line and sinker, and now I’m disgusted.

I agree with you completely that it’s come to a point where there are more takers than makers. The problem is, there is no going back. We’ve jumped out of the plane, and we’re just going to pick up speed until we hit the ground.

It’s out of our hands.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 10:25:12 AM PST by brownsfan (It's over.)
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To: two23
But—Romeny was not tough enough. He ran a Mr Rogers campaign. Nice guy—not tough enough for dealing with the lying, dirty, cheating left. Don’t bring a wet noodle to a smash fest.

You mean, we needed a tough guy candidate like Barry Goldwater?

If Romney had done as you say, he would've gone down to a crushing defeat a la LBJ trouncing Goldwater in '64.

Sorry, I liked Goldwater too, up until he went squishy in his dotage.

20 posted on 11/07/2012 10:25:12 AM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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