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To: wastoute

I agree, this doesn’t smell right at all. 2008 took a perfect storm of extremely high Democrat enthusiasm, independent cluelessness, and even a significant number of Republicans swept up in the “hope and change” and “historic presidency” nonsense to get Obama elected. That outcome should have been unreproducible especially given the continued lousy economy and the loss of Obama’s phony messiah aura.

Yet we’re to believe that in a year when Republicans clearly by all accounts turned out in huge numbers the result was the same? Nonsense. Not possible, especially given the huge difference in enthusiasm that every poll showed as well as a complete flip in voter ID, giving the Republicans a record party ID advantage. We’re really supposed to believe that none of those stark contrasts to 2008 made any difference?

I can’t believe I’m saying this because I’m not a conspiracy theorist at all, but the vote tallies and how they came down just felt artificial. There were no surprises that worked to Republicans’ advantage anywhere. No randomness, just a very neat and orderly “programmed” march toward a pre-determined Obama outcome.

I know half the country is crazy these days, but this was just too neat and tidy, all wrapped up with a bow on top.


47 posted on 11/07/2012 1:49:37 AM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: noiseman

You and I know Obama is a phony messiah, but wayyy too many people still believe it. His personal approval has always been well over 50 which was a hurdle. The Sandy news for a week reinforced his fake savior image especially since it was wholeheartedly endorsed by a leading Romney supporter in Christie.

A few million people did check out of voting this year but they were never going to switch to Romney. They hate rich white religious guys


53 posted on 11/07/2012 1:56:57 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: noiseman
I know half the country is crazy these days, but this was just too neat and tidy, all wrapped up with a bow on top.

Recall that ousted Honduran President Manuel Zelaya tried to force the country to put him on the ballot for re-election -- which was illegal under the Honduras constitution.

The Army, at the order of the Supreme Court, ousted him -- and he went into exile...in Venezuela.

Zelaya tried to return and run for re-election anyway. The Army came for himn again...and he fled. But the discovered a laptop that he left behind. The laptop was loaded with "election results" for every precinct in Honduras.

So, now we know how Hugo Chavez always wins his elections...

57 posted on 11/07/2012 2:00:00 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: noiseman

I don’t know if you were watching but I was. At about midnight Fla. and Va. were looking good for the GOP. Fla was down by something like 20,000 votes but the panhandle wasn’t in yet. The GOP had Va by something like 100,000 votes with most of the vote in and Zero wasn’t catching up. North Carolina had clearly gone GOP by 3% or so with 97% of the vote in but they wouldn’t call it for the GOP. I kept asking myself why not when all of a sudden they give Ohio to Dear Leader when the GOP has been coming from 10% behind at 30% of the vote in to LESS THAN 1,000 votes to go and not quite 75% of the vote in??? Really? Then our guy gives the speech he was carefully selected for. Having done the job he came to do he now returns to obscurity. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? If this isn’t what a stolen election looks like I don’t know what is. Lines all over the states that were critical? For THE FIRST TIME EVER. Of course Hugo doesn’t have to give a crap but Zero had to make this “appear fair”. So they had to slow down the voting here and there so at midnight they could “take care of business”. And they did.


68 posted on 11/07/2012 2:11:55 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: noiseman

Yeah. I agree. But I am stuck now between tired, confused and a little bit shocked mixed with a calmness of what do we do next feeling. If this was fraud then what do we do about it or what can we do next time?


95 posted on 11/07/2012 2:37:50 AM PST by Mozilla
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To: noiseman

Step back.

Democrats won nearly everything in statewide races where Obama won that state.

Here is Pennsylvania, we split the vote very often, voting for the Democrat at the top, but Republicans lower down.

This cycle, every statewide race, AG, Auditor, Treasurer, etc were all won by Democrats with almost the exact same vote totals as Obama.

There is a fishy smell.


133 posted on 11/07/2012 4:07:46 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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