I was referring to the top line call and you simply have proven my point.
"Anytime a pollster makes his final call within the MOE (whether true or not) they stand little chance of being discredited. Perhaps Im wrong."
You stated "whether true or not they stand little chance of being discredited". That is a factually incorrect statement -- and you even eliminated the MoE call as a condition precedent. Zogby has literally been driven out of the business by his 2004 call for Kerry.
Well, we agree Zogby is a discredited putz so let’s leave it at that.
Personally I think all the pollster are more concerned with playing CYA then reporting what they are actually seeing in the answers to their questions. My sense id they just do not trust they are getting an honest response from many of the people they call. That or the sample they are using is screwed up because there are so many people who simply cannot be bothered with what they believe are agenda driven pollsters.