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To: Missouri gal
I have been a donor to the great St. Joseph Foundation. The
statement about being safe with children was told to me by the
Deacon principal a few years after the fact; he didn't have
the heart to tell me at the time. And the fact that he removed
me from teaching religion is entirely within his purview.
Because I have always stood for orthodoxy, and battled the hierarchy
here, he could easily trump up anything to give as cause.

Two years ago when an excellent Catholic prolife Lt Gov
was running to be gov against the 100% pro-abortion
Abercrombie, a woman asked to say a few words after Mass,
and spoke about a teenage girl's thoughts about being
prolife. No mention of party, or candidate. The priest,
filling in at that parish, was diocesan vicar, 2nd in command
to the bishop. As soon as she started to speak, he became visibly
upset, and then came across the altar to the podium, asked her
to leave, scolded her to the congregation, and said there is separation
of church and state. That would have been this weekend coming
up in 2010. In January, two months later, that very same priest went to work for
Abercrombie, leaving the priesthood in the process.
39 posted on 11/01/2012 4:11:54 PM PDT by jobim (.)
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To: jobim
My sympathies, jobim. Been through similar experiences. Pretty hard to document a Bishop or priest doing bad things, but sooner or later somebody should be able to gather evidence, and should act on it. Yes, St. Joseph is a GREAT organization!

With regard to the gal who was so humiliated at Mass, that vicar subscribes to the liberalist fantasy that there is no free speech in (Catholic) churches, especially wr to abortion. We had a legal advisor to one of the Bishops speak at Missouri Catholic Conference in 2004 try to say that the word “abortion” cannot be spoken in a church or church facility. Turns out the room was full of pro-life attorneys, some with far better credentials than he had, and they (politely) ate him alive.

That said, the liar lawyers don't give up. In 2008, another attorney in church employment sent a letter to all the Catholic clergy in the state, to the same effect: don't mention anything remotely political or about abortion, and don't allow any parking lot literature from Right to Life or ELSE. He didn't sign it, but foolishly put his personal contact information on it. Found a copy and gave it to the Bishops. He lost his job.

They STILL don't give up, however. Now there's a statement on MCC’s website that claims non-profit organizations can't endorse a political position and that includes church (public access) parking lots. Jeez, there must be tens of thousands of nonprofits advocating political positions. What the liberals really mean is that they don't want Christians to advocate Christian positions, especially on moral issues. They just can't say what they mean.

42 posted on 11/02/2012 7:21:23 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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