But if you're dealing with a society larger and wider than FReeperdom, you have to either consign yourself to permanent irrelevance by using only-Biblical arguments, which are un-convincing to non-believers --- as well as to Biblicists who interpret differently than you do ---- OR you have to approach a Natural-Law argument which would prevail on the basis of evidence and reasonable inferences from evidence, pertaining to the flourishing of individuals, families, and societies.
I think that's what Prager is heading toward. And it's absolutely necessary unless you're content to get Amens from the FR Amen Corner, and that's it.
Communist goals........
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion.
http://www.creators.com/opinion/william-murchison/the-gay-marriage-fantasy.html
.....Large realities dwarf and overshadow the tiny human figures reacting to them. You can say up is down if you want, or hot is cold, or far is near. It’s your democratic right. Saying doesn’t make it so, nonetheless, except to activists with a personal agenda. In which case, let fantasy reign.
I’m sorry, there’s no such thing as gay “marriage” — as distinguished from gay “relationships” — because marriage as understood by the whole of humanity for the whole of human time, normally under religious auspices, exists for purposes no gay relationship can satisfy.
What might those purposes be? One is the blending of the relationship between the only two human types there are — male and female. The man and the woman go together: physically, emotionally, intellectually. I mean, I’m sorry if that hurts anyone’s feelings, but Reality does get in the way sometimes when we set out to change it or make it dance to a merry new tune.
A second, genuinely urgent thing that marriage does — and no gay relationship possibly can — is project the human race into the future.
The Bible does not need interpretation so far as homosexuality is concerned. It clearly defines it as deviant behavior. It is far past time for those who call themselves Christian to stand up for the truth. We are living in a day where God is separating the sheep from the goats and the wheat from the tares. Secular arguments for traditional marriage can be made successfully using both biblical values and secular reasons as their foundation.