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You right wing nuts made the storm much worse because you're stingy!

1 posted on 10/30/2012 6:11:34 AM PDT by Zakeet
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The usual reflexive liberal argument: there is no problem Government cannot fix, and if you disagree you are an OGRE. Next Tuesday the American people (or at least 53% of them) won’t buy it.


27 posted on 10/30/2012 6:48:53 AM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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Yes, NYT. Clearly, the Bureau of Land Management, the Department of Energy, the Department of Education, the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Health and Human Services and the Transportation Safety Administration are all very important in being able to respond to natural disasters. And it's a very good thing that trillions of our dollars are funneled to Washington DC, so that millions are available to help those in need.

Hafta admit, they're absolutely right. That big government sure is helping out!

28 posted on 10/30/2012 6:48:56 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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Police, fire, rescue, and hospital capabiities are all local and state assets, and in the case hospitals, they are often private facilities. The National Guard is, in the first, instance, a state level resource. The locals have to do the job.

FEMA's role is very secondary. It mostly write checks after the fact to reimburse for unusually high costs, which is why the designation of so many relatively trivial events as "federal disasters" is a political slush fund operation.

30 posted on 10/30/2012 6:53:09 AM PDT by sphinx
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Dear ny slimes... die... go bankrupt... starve... whither away... p*$$ off etc etc etc etc etc.

LLS


34 posted on 10/30/2012 7:02:05 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (OUR GOVERNMENT AND PRESS ARE NO LONGER TRUSTWORTHY OR DESERVING OF RESPECT!)
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hmmm...most of us, and indeed for several thousands, if not perhaps millions of years, humans survived the planet without “Big Government”..

In fact..some of the biggest of “big” governments have been responsible for 100’s of millions of deaths in the 20th century.

39 posted on 10/30/2012 7:31:22 AM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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Before FEMA, how did Texas cope with the Galveston hurricane in 1900 that killed over 10,000 people? How did California survive the Great San Francisco Earthquake in 1906 that killed over 3,000 and destroyed 80% of that major city?

We are pitiful cry babies compared to Americans of that generation. They helped each other and didn’t wait for the federal government to take care of them when disaster struck. They were strong people who expected disasters in life, not weaklings who believe that nothing bad should ever happen to them.


42 posted on 10/30/2012 7:56:44 AM PDT by txrefugee
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FUNYT


43 posted on 10/30/2012 8:40:06 AM PDT by crosshairs (America: Once the land of the free. Still the home of the brave.)
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Hellooooooo, geniuses at The New York Times: this Omnipotent Big Government you speak of ... have you noticed most of it is frickin’ CLOSED today?


44 posted on 10/30/2012 9:00:37 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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Since we are talking hurricane politics, consider that the worst hit thus far are all blue states: NJ, NY, DE, MD, CT.

Electoral effect on Romney: Near zero.

Two swing states (VA, PA) have been affected, at least residually, in their blue areas (northern VA, greater Philly). This could affect turnout and certainly has affected early voting.

Electoral effect on Obama: potentially decisive in a bad way.


45 posted on 10/30/2012 10:01:51 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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Since the effects, while over a broad area, require focused responses in each affected locale; the needs are not served by having to defer to judgment from a centralized bureaucracy.

This is not just theoretical--not just a logical conclusion from what we know about the inefficiency of centralized bureaucracy. We have also had fairly recent examples--as witness the better local response to Katrina in Southern Mississippi, as compared to that in the politically corrupt New Orleans, where folk waited for the Federalis, to solve the problems.

The New York Times, of course, does not look at political questions from an objective perspective. It has not done so for a great many decades. The staff, once again, sees an opportunity to tout Leftist theories, and does so.

Yes, of course, cooperation between communities can help in these terrible situations. But making each community the primary responder to its own immediate problem, frees local initiatives from the inevitable hand-wringing, bias & what have you, of a centralized bureaucracy trying to determine priorities in a general confusion.

Think about it.

William Flax

46 posted on 10/30/2012 10:16:52 AM PDT by Ohioan
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Chicago destroyed by fire, and Chicago rebuilt - no FEMA.

San Francisco hit by earthquake followed by fire, and destroyed, and rebuilt - no FEMA.

New Orleans, hit bt hurricane Katrina while corrupt state and local officials scapegoated FEMA for their incompentance, and parts of New Orleans, after billion$ and billion$ still not recovered.

Federal government dependency IS federal government dependency and creates dependency and inhibits self-sufficency in any area where it exceeds its essential and necessary functions.

America was STRONGER when everyone, including every level of government understood that.

To what do we owe any great successes in mitaging issues due to this storm, leading up to it, or rescuing those in danger from it - state and local planning, state and local action and locally directed responses.


47 posted on 10/30/2012 11:51:00 AM PDT by Wuli
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