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Hundreds evacuated after US levee breaks; people on roofs awaiting rescue
AP via Yahoo News ^ | 10/30/12

Posted on 10/30/2012 4:42:33 AM PDT by Kartographer

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To: cuban leaf

Not really. There’s damage and power outages from New England to North Carolina and west into West Virginia and Pennsylvania, and it’s not over yet...there’s still the potential for inland flooding in Pennsylvania, upstate New York, and New England on up into Canada as Sandy heads west and then north.

It served up a worst-case scenario for the NYC metro area in that Sandy hit near high tide on a night with a full moon to make the tides even worse. The tide gauge at Battery Park broke the 52-year-old record from Hurricane Donna by almost *four feet*. A lot of the NYC metro area is without power, the subways are flooded, the underground infrastructure is flooded.

This is not a Katrina or an Andrew in terms of massive loss of life or leveling everything in sight. But it is a very large storm that is going to cause a lot of financial damage due to the flooding in densely-populated urban areas, and a lot of disruption.

}:-)4


21 posted on 10/30/2012 5:34:02 AM PDT by Moose4 (...and walk away.)
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To: cuban leaf

Thousands of houses on the Jersey shore are going to be a total loss. There’s enormous amounts of damage where the media haven’t been - like Staten Island. Fire Island has likely been savaged.

Colorado fire damage will end up being trivial in comparison. The population density of this area is beyond belief. The media right now will be focusing on the most photogenic areas.


22 posted on 10/30/2012 5:35:01 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Kartographer

I truly believe that if the Yellowstone super volcano was to explode in a Krakatoa like event that there are a solid group of FReepers who will thump their chest and tell you it isn’t all that bad or outright claim the whole thing is exaggerated. I wouldn’t be surprise to hear them go up to the Lord after Armageddon and say: “Lord why all the hype in the Book of Revelations? I mean it wasn’t all that bad.”

Worse yet is all of the ‘ODS’ I’ve seen here on FR. Yes ‘Bama’ is horrible, yes he HAS GOT TO GO, but these people act like ‘Bama’ either conjurered up the storm or the whole thing is some Machiavellian plot out of a bad suspense novel. LIFE goes on, things happen. The storm doesn’t know or care that it’s election time or what ‘BAMA’ has done to this country.

I wouldn’t be surprised to hear of people who believed so much that the hurricane is just some leftist plot that they are caught unprepared for the storm and dying as a result of it crying out “It’s Obama’s fault” with their last breath!

Some seem to have reached a point where if they go to the doctor next week and he tells them that they have cancer it will be Obama’s fault! Or if they have a flat tire on the way to work next week it will be Obama’s fault! If you step on a crack and break your mother’s back it will be Obama’s fault!

To me this is the talk, methods and the mindset of the leftist. Its the same shill BS they spewed against George Bush. I thought we are better than that. I know we should be better than that. I am sure that we can be better than that.

The other thing I notice is that is the me, me, me mindset so many seem to be taking with this storm. Hell this storm will most likely KILL people and here’s people who are supposedly conservatives sounding like leftist. Everything is me me me. How is the Hurricane going to effect the election? And so on it’s sickening. So people are going to die and homes get lost and peoples lives get turned upside down and inside out, well that’s bad but how is it going to effect me? I guess it doesn’t matter what losses occur as long as it doesn’t effect the election. Seems many on FR have their priorities screwed up.


23 posted on 10/30/2012 5:36:02 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: a real Sheila
“WHY does this scene play out during every hurriane?
WHY don’t folks evacuate?”

Plenty of people here yesterday saying it was over hyped.

24 posted on 10/30/2012 5:36:13 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: cuban leaf
Any disaster in non-flyover country (the Northeast and Southern California) is overhyped by the MSM. Hundreds of square miles of Colorado might burn down, but a few dozen homes in Queens will get more coverage. A hurricane can flatten thousands of homes in Florida, and a tornado do similar damage in Missouri, but a few roofs lost in New Jersey will get more coverage. The MSM’s focus on their home regions is as predictable as their liberal bias.
25 posted on 10/30/2012 5:38:27 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: a real Sheila

I don’t think the town of Moonachie was under an evac order... until they were underwater.

They’re at an elevation of like 10’, as I recall.

There are large swathes of New Jersey’s coastline that are at low elevations above sea level, and a really large storm surge at high tide (which is what happened here) are going to make a bunch of the rivers and major streams in that area of NJ literally run backwards - which lots of people don’t expect or plan for.

So you’re a municipal official, thinking “Hey, we’re dozens of miles inland off the shore... we don’t have much to worry about except the drenching rain and the usual minor flooding we have every other year in the spring rains around here...”

Until the river or stream runs uphill, and you find out that, yes, there were reasons to be very worried.


26 posted on 10/30/2012 5:39:38 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: cuban leaf
“Anything else I’m missing?”

Yeah I guess it's nothing.

Water in the streets around Wall Street; probably thousands of homes damaged severely, a huge amount of the US population at an economic standstill.

It's nothing really; I guess....

27 posted on 10/30/2012 5:41:26 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: Wallace T.

That’s pretty much my perspective as well. People in the upper midwest were without power in some places for weeks on end, in bitterly freezing temps... and there was no hyperventilation about it.

The Teton Dam burst above Rexburg and the entire town was under feet of water in minutes... and the national news moved in, reported it and went on with their NYC/DC soap operas.

And on and on and on.

The people of the NYC/DC axis think they’re oh so very special. Every little popcorn fart of inconvenience is a huge event to them.

The rest of the country has to carry on without the drama and spectacle of the NYC/DC news cycle.


28 posted on 10/30/2012 5:44:45 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: Strategerist
Thousands of houses on the Jersey shore are going to be a total loss.

Maybe the only good thing to come of the hurricane would be the cancellation of the idiotic show - even if the cast members grew up a little because of the experience...I can hope.

In the meantime, the east coast remains in my prayers.
29 posted on 10/30/2012 5:46:17 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I thought of how many vehicles were destroyed. That can mess up people’s lives, too.


30 posted on 10/30/2012 5:48:02 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: GlockThe Vote
I’m ok. No power in the Bronx but safe. Cooking on a Coleman grill.

I’m glad to hear that! Glad you have that Coleman grill – that’s a good thing to have in an emergency. Stay safe.

I’m still waiting for news about my cousin and his family who live in Little Flower where there has been evacuations and rescues, flooding due to a levee break and from my brother who lives just west of Point Pleasant.

It made me very angry to see some people here saying that a major disaster in the NE would be no big deal because all those people are just “liberals”, they live in “Blue States” and so they deserve it. I know a lot of people, much like you and my cousin and brother in the NE who are conservatives. But in any case, I don’t wish death, property damage and misery on anyone.

31 posted on 10/30/2012 5:49:34 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: NVDave
I don’t think the town of Moonachie was under an evac order... until they were underwater.

The town of Moonachie in northern NJ floods out periodically. The town sits on a flood plain and any significant rain causes flooding ...

32 posted on 10/30/2012 5:50:30 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: Kartographer
I'm going to play Democrat for a minute...
Why wasn't the Corp of Engineers prepared for this, the new the strom surge was coming for days?

Why hadn't they increased the height of this levee?

Why wasn't Presidnt Obama more prepared for this?

Where is FEMA and the Coast Guard for these people?

Why wren't they pre-positioned to thos very site, knowing that a lvee could break?

[/end DNC mode]

This is exactly what they did to Bush during Katrina at every turn.

33 posted on 10/30/2012 5:50:35 AM PDT by Jeff Head ( Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Kartographer

And Obama does nothing.


34 posted on 10/30/2012 5:51:30 AM PDT by bmwcyle (45% to 47% of American voters are stupid)
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To: Jeff Head
The answer to your question is that the Federal Gov’t blew it up because a bunch of 1%’ers live there.
35 posted on 10/30/2012 5:52:21 AM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: NVDave

We were without electric power for about four days after a big snow storm took down power lines across Missouri a few years ago. I had some frozen soup that was easy to prepare on our wood stove.
After things were repaired, the utility cut back thousands of trees that had grown up in the power line rights of ways.


36 posted on 10/30/2012 5:52:32 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: NVDave

Population is population. More people live in Brooklyn than in North and South Dakota and Montana COMBINED.

Shockingly, the more people that live somewhere, the more coverage it gets.


37 posted on 10/30/2012 5:53:35 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Kartographer
Did ya see Christie going after the mayor of Atlantic City???

After the gov. told everyone to leave all the barrier islands, the mayor of AC told HIS PEOPLE to stay put.

It mayor Naygen all over again.

38 posted on 10/30/2012 5:54:08 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: Kartographer

One thing to think about with Sandy...this one weather system, hurricane, Frankenstorm, whatever you call it, was producing flooding and hurricane wind conditions in New York City, heavy snow in the mountains of northeast Tennessee, and massive waves on Lake Michigan AT THE SAME TIME. That’s not “just a cat 1 hurricane” no matter how you slice it.

}:-)4


39 posted on 10/30/2012 5:55:17 AM PDT by Moose4 (...and walk away.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Some people don’t stop to think about the population density here.
It’s not like a wildfire running through the west where the population density is maybe 1/100th of this area.


40 posted on 10/30/2012 5:55:29 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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