We don’t know the extent of the damage yet, but it is already clear that this may be worse than most of us expected.
There’s trouble all over, and I don’t want to downplay the damage in other areas. But it looks to me that the damage to New York City might turn out to be much worse than most of us expected.
Here are a few astounding facts:
* The storm surge is already higher than the peak predicted a few hours ago, and far higher than the previous record.
* The Brooklyn Battery tunnel is flooding.
* Supposedly, ALL main line subway tunnels are flooding.
* Fires are burning in some subway tunnels.
* The water is still rising, and the high water may last through tomorrow’s high tide as well.
It seems almost certain that this much water will flood ALL of the underground utilities in the areas with visible standing surface water, and this will spread via the underground tunnels to other areas without visible water on the surface.
Supposedly, if the tunnels all fill with water, pumping them out will take FOUR days. I have no idea how long it will take to repair the infrastructure inside them once they’ve been pumped out, but you can bet it will take a long time.
In other words, New York City’s utilities in the flooded areas will be utterly trashed. Fixing them will be very slow. It’s easy to see how it could take much longer than anyone anticipated before the storm.
So, given this extraordinary situation, what will happen to the water supply? The sewage system? How will people in high rises get water to drink, and what will they do for waste disposal?
Right now, anyway, the city is nearly cut off. How will it be resupplied with food? How will people who wish to leave get out?
And the million dollar question: How will people behave if they have no water? No food? No power? No police?
I doubt this will hit New York City as hard as Katrina hit New Orleans, but right now it looks like recovery from this will NOT be like anything New York has had to recover from before.
I remember reading or watching something about the NY subway system a while back. I believe they said that the subway system has much of it’s original wiring and control systems still in use. Things that they didn’t have spare parts for.
Tide calculator website.
http://www.protides.com/
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Well they shouldn't have any trouble finding water to "bucket flush" their terlets...if they don't mind carrying it up a hundred flights of stairs.
Sounds bad yet there are a solid group of FReepers who will thump their chest and tell you it isn’t all that bad or outright hint you are exaggerating. Their seem to be a small but vocal contingent that I wouldn’t be surprise to hear them go up to the Lord after Armageddon and say: “Lord why all the hype in the Book of Revelations? I mean it wasn’t all that bad.”
Worse yet is all of the ‘ODS’ I’ve seen here on FR. Yes ‘Bama’ is horrible, yes he HAS GOT TO GO, but these people act like ‘Bama’ either conjurered up the storm or the whole thing is some Machiavellian plot out of a bad suspense novel. LIFE goes on, things happen. The storm doesn’t know or care that it’s election time or what ‘BAMA’ has done to this country.
I wouldn’t be surprised to hear of people who believed so much that the hurricane is just some leftist plot that they are caught unprepared for the storm and dying as a result of it crying out “It’s Obama’s fault” with their last breath!
Some seem to have reached a point where if they go to the doctor next week and he tells them that they have cancer it will be Obama’s fault! Or if they have a flat tire on the way to work next week it will be Obama’s fault! If you step on a crack and break your mother’s back it will be Obama’s fault!
To me this is the talk, methods and the mindset of the leftist. Its the same shill BS they spewed against George Bush. I thought we are better than that. I know we should be better than that. I am sure that we can be better than that.
The other thing I notice is that is the me, me, me mindset so many seem to be taking with this storm. Hell this storm will most likely KILL people and here’s people who are supposedly conservatives sounding like leftist. Everything is me me me. How is the Hurricane going to effect the election? And so on it’s sickening. So people are going to die and homes get lost and peoples lives get turned upside down and inside out, well that’s bad but how is it going to effect me? I guess it doesn’t matter what losses occur as long as it doesn’t effect the election. Seems many on FR have their priorities screwed up.