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To: whitey righty
If even the push-pollers like PPP have Romney up, BO is going to get trounced.

Like Rush Limbaugh says, even the most biased pollsters have to eventually show results that are somewhere near reality or they will be totally discredited after election day. That's why in these final two weeks we've seen many polls that had Obama up by a sizable margin, narrow substantially, by election day they will be in the same neighborhood as Ras or Gallup and all anyone will remember was they were pretty close on election day.

By the way, I don't think Obama was EVER up five or more points like many of these polls had him before the debates. I think before the debates it was probably a tie and now Romney has a five point lead. The entire goal of these liberal pollsters showing Obama up by a supposedly insurmountable margin in September was to try and knock Romney out early by creating the narrative that he was another John McCain who just couldn't win against Obama.

27 posted on 10/28/2012 12:35:13 AM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar

Out of curiosity, does anybody know what ryme or reason Realclearpolitcs.com uses to decide what polls it includes in it’s average of polls. They seem to use the PPP state polls even though PPP is a democrat polling outfit, but they don’t seem to be using the PPP national poll. Also they use to include Reuters/Ipsos but they haven’t included it the last couple weeks. The only four daily’s they seem to always use are Gallup, Ras, IBD/TIPP, and ABC/Washpost. But then sometimes they’ll include some podunk college poll that nobody has ever heard of. Then last week they threw in both a Time magazine poll and a Zogby poll, neither of which I’d seen them include the entire year (and both of which were bad for Romney which brought down the average).


30 posted on 10/28/2012 12:48:32 AM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar
By the way, I don't think Obama was EVER up five or more points like many of these polls had him before the debates. I think before the debates it was probably a tie and now Romney has a five point lead. The entire goal of these liberal pollsters showing Obama up by a supposedly insurmountable margin in September was to try and knock Romney out early by creating the narrative that he was another John McCain who just couldn't win against Obama.

I totally agree. The polls were used to try and shape public opinion instead of capture it. I never thought that was the case, especially in this terrible 4 year Obamaeconomy.

37 posted on 10/28/2012 12:02:04 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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