i'd still like to see this 30mm M1 looked into... 
Posted on 10/25/2012 2:08:18 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
They could call it the SHINSEKI.
I can’t believe that just going to tracks will add that much weight.
I suspect there are major armor improvements in this thing. The Israelis are going with heavy APC’s for survivability.
And to think the M-8 AGS was already developed, approved for production, and Shinseki cancels it to adopt the Stryker POS. Perfect example of why the procurement system is corrupt and broken beyond repair.
L8R
My son is back at JBLM from Douchebagistan. He says the Strykers are used effectively. A tracked one that is more IED resistant could be useful.
i'd still like to see this 30mm M1 looked into...
General Shelton Chair Joint Chiefs in 2000 said:
The Chief of Staff’s revolutionary plan has not been free of criticism from other high-ranking Army officers. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Henry H. Shelton, who serves as the highest ranking officer in the entire US military, recently offered a note of caution concerning the Shinseki Transformation plan even while he continues to support its overall objectives.
I’m all in favor of increased agility, lethality and mobility...But there is a fundamental flaw in the logic that we can achieve this only at the expense of our 2-MTW capability. ... (which) allows us to meet our commitments to our allies. If we abandon our 2-MTW capability, we risk our own security and the security of our friends around the world.
General Shelton, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, June 16, 2000
General Shelton argued against allowing the Shinseki plan to do away with the ‘heavy’ forces from going too far to degrade or even eliminate the ability of the US Army to fight and win two simultaneous major theater wars (MTWs). Shelton stated that those who say the United States should
abandon its capability to fight two MTWs are wrong.
So what we get is the 1968 design that weighs 42 freaking tons? How is it possible to be better on fuel than prior?
This is one screwed up notion from the abject failure— Shinseki.
Our fighting forces must look a lot like those little clay pipes, that move across the gallery in an arcade, to our enemies.
Interesting. Would be cool in a game, don’t know about real war scenario.
it was looked at as an urban warfare assault vehicle, and where running over an an IED didn't stop it cold by killing one of only two tracks
You CAN get a 30mm Bushmaster cannon on an Abrams (or a Stryker) that fires the same ammo at a lower rate. You can also get a GAU-19 .50 cal gatling gun on there.
I would like to see a Stryker with two or three internally-operated guns, like maybe a Bushmaster, a grenade launcher, and a gatling gun.
Let's see - the Russians managed to fit in a 100mm gun/anti-tank missle launcher, a co-axial 30mm automatic cannon, and three machine guns.
and air droppable too...
i like the idea of four tracks so losing one doesn't put it out of commission, the guns can vary as to what works best, the striker on the other hand, should stick with wheels and with multi-gun systems maybe like the pic above
Send them to every Embassy
is that a Vulcan cannon-type gun??
Shinseki, huh... we all know how the motor hogs are going to name it,,....the Sh*tski!
i believe the original concept was a 30mm like on the A10 but it's been said it's not feasible i think a Vulcan would definitely suffice though...
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