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To: CodeToad

I don’t follow sports much. Fans are FANATICS. Blind for the cause.

Armstrong cheated. He cheated BIG. He set out to destroy people who didn’t have his resources and were put in untenable position of having to tell the truth.

Armstrong cheated the sport, the fans, and the real winner (even if the real non-doping winner was back in the pack).

He stole the fame, money and glory from the non-doping winner.

He threatened people’s livelihood and reputations.

Go drink some Armstrong Kool-aide. He’s a cheater and a rotten man.


57 posted on 10/22/2012 9:09:04 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue
That was an adorable little temper tantrum but it still doesn't excuse using government force to persecute private citizens outside a fascist or communist country. It is completely unconstitutional. Between you and Lance, you're the biggest danger to our society.


62 posted on 10/22/2012 9:14:46 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: Smokeyblue
He threatened people’s livelihood and reputations.

He's destroyed lives.
65 posted on 10/22/2012 9:20:03 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Smokeyblue

It’s funny how a sport defines what things are acceptable, and what things are not, and how every athlete pushes the limits. Rackets in tennis, weird golf clubs, special shoes, special swim suits and oils, entirely new techniques of performing the sport.

It was interesting watching water polo from under the water, and realizing that the entire sport is cheaters. Everybody was always grabbing people, which is against the rules. The ones who were best at it would not get caught, and would win.

Or the best offensive linesmen, who are the best at hiding holding from the referees. Or the best wide receivers who know how to push off and get the defenders called for pass interference.

Or the point guards who every day work on their techniques for palming the ball, and taking that extra step, without getting caught.

Or the best catchers, who know how to drag the ball back into the strike zone.

Or the athlete who finds the new natural enhancements, before the sport gets wise and tries to ban them. Hypobaric chambers, steroids, protein, carb loading, training at high altitudes, blood “doping”.

Every serious professional athlete is looking for any edge they can find. Look at how the wheels have changed in cycling. Some poor guy couldn’t even afford to try to break into the sport anymore, the bikes cost so much.

Want to know who the best cyclist really is? Lock the 50 best guys up in prison, feed them all the same food for 6 months, then hand them all identical off-the-shelf bikes, and send them out without any team support, as individuals.

Of course, they’ll still form a peleton and choose who gets to win. They’ll still try to cheat drafting the TV crews. They’ll still cut each other off when people aren’t looking.

I don’t want to watch athletes who are just doped up, cutting years off their lives. But I also thought it was unfair when the first guy won a tennis championship with a hugely oversized racket, while Jimmy Conners was still playing with that old wooden stick of his.


71 posted on 10/22/2012 9:26:46 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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