Posted on 10/19/2012 12:39:21 PM PDT by marktwain
I wonder what was the caliber and what they were trying to load?
One probably important caveat: carry what you will practice with and become competent with; if that means you carry a .22 automatic with stinger hollowpoints, you will be competent in defeating untrained criminals. No matter what you carry, if your assailant is practiced with the weapon he carries, he will get the first shot off before you can draw and fire, so carry what you can use competently to send more than one round on target, quickly. I’ve carried a .22 semi auto for years ... and fired thousands of rounds through the first one I carried and now the one I presently carry. Tools require proper use and maintenance.
“These statistics have always been puzzling to me. Why aren’t more people getting shot by criminals?
Now I know the answer. The criminals’ weapons won’t fire!”
The simpler explanation is that most criminals don’t carry guns to shoot people. They carry guns to make people do what they want. Shooting someone just adds more time when they are caught. And they don’t shop in gun stores and decide which brand they want to buy. They buy whatever they can find on the street, ie. stolen weapons.
Made me think of Raising Arizona; “It ain't armed robbery if the gun ain't loaded”
He seems to say that there should be a cartridge in the chamber at all times. “One in the spout” may be fine and necessary when facing a high probability of encountering a criminal, but, given the normal low probability of that, isn’t it a little too much for everyday use?
I’ll make sure I memorize these statistics just in case I get held up.
Should help a lot.
Thanks.
I’ll make sure I memorize these statistics just in case I get held up.
Should help a lot.
Thanks.
My grandson has claimed everything else and loaded his gun rack.
SHTF ping
I suppose for 9,999 days out of 10,000 you are perfectly OK to carry the gun completely unloaded (everyday use). What is really tough is determining when that other day is going to occur.
No it isn't too much. A round should absolutely be chambered and ready to fire if one is going to carry for personal protection. Carrying a weapon with an empty chamber is begging to die "studpidly" as the Sword Saint of Japan, Miyamoto Musashi would put it.
Most people will indeed go their entire lifetime without ever having to use deadly force, but even if it only happens once in your life the event and it's outcome will be of significant importance to the person it's happening to.
The lesser probability of it happening doesn't mean you are at a lower risk if it does. I wouldn't go out on the road without a spare tire, even though I rarely need one, because it only takes once to get stranded on a lonely road. Same principle.
Wait a minute. You’re saying I can’t double my firepower by loading my .44 with two .22’s per chamber? Who knew?
The only criminals I’ve ever run into are COPS! Police are a much greater danger than criminals. I can at least fight back against the criminal.
If I’m carrying it, it WILL be ready to fire.
Thanks, eh? Definitely worth knowing.
interesting
One of the more telling anecdotes I’ve ever seen from an attempted armed robbery actually says a lot.
The potential victim had exited his city apartment and was walking to his parked car next to the sidewalk. He heard something that made him pause, but it took several seconds to figure out that a man, perhaps a block or so away, was shouting. Several more seconds to realize that the man was shouting at him.
The man was screaming at him to come to him and give him his money. Then the victim realized that the man was not approaching, but likely in the throws of some drug, trembling or shaking so hard he could not walk.
The robber cursed and screamed and demanded, eventually pulling what the victim supposed was a knife, slashing the air in front of him, ineffectually.
While this anecdote seems odd and unlikely, ironically perhaps the most telling part of it was the distance between robber and victim, when the robber initiated the event.
How often does this sort of thing happen at much closer range, yet the robber, and/or his weapon, is effectively worthless?
I’ve heard a lot of anecdotes where this was the case. Some slight youth, addled with drugs or alcohol, trying to menace some much larger man who could easily smite him even without a weapon.
Almost as common, some addict that exits a drug house, robs the first person they see, then goes right back into the drug house to buy more drugs, indifferent to the person standing there they just held up.
She screamed and the gunman pulled the trigger on my son. I'm commenting on this thread, because the semi-auto handgun mentioned here is among the junkers reported here. The gun misfired, my son heard the 'click', simultaneously the entire group of witnesses attacked the perps.
The handgun was a Jennings 9mm that misfired. It also fell apart as the gunman was trying to put it back together with the nickel plated slide falling off.
The woman sat on this kid until the Police arrived. They told us he had 24 prior arrests in Chicago alone. He plead guilty and he's doing 15 years.
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