Posted on 10/17/2012 3:36:22 AM PDT by markomalley
At Tuesdays Hofstra University presidential debate, President Barack Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney duked it out over pay equity for women, just as they have fought over female votes in the national polls.
While Obama made the empathetic case for his single mother and his belief in equal pay pointing out that the first bill he signed as president was the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act he did not address reports this year that demonstrated that his own White House pays women less than men.
The first bill I signed was something called the Lily Ledbetter bill. And its named after this amazing woman who had been doing the same job as a man for years, found out that she was getting paid less, and the Supreme Court said that she couldnt bring suit because she should have found about it earlier, whereas she had no way of finding out about it, Obama said. So we fixed that. And thats an example of the kind of advocacy that we need, because women are increasingly the breadwinners in the family. This is not just a womens issue this is a family issue, this is a middle-class issue, and thats why weve got to fight for it.
According to a report published by the Free Beacon in April, the 2011 annual report on White House staff revealed that the median annual salary for female White House employees was 18 percent less than male employees $60,000 compared to $71,000.
And in 2008, Scripps Howard syndicated columnist Deroy Murdock noted that as in Obamas U.S. Senate office, women were paid less than men: While the average male staffer brought home $54,397, female staffers averaged $45,152.
Romney detailed his professional history, recruiting women into positions of power during his tenure as governor of Massachusetts. He further pointed out the economic suffering women have endured under Obama, including the loss of 580,000 jobs among women and 3.5 million women in poverty.
What we can do to help young women and women of all ages is to have a strong economy so strong that employers that are looking to find good employees and bringing them into their workforce and adapting to a flexible work schedule that gives women opportunities that they would otherwise not be able to afford, Romney said.
Obama pressed Romney on the Lily Ledbetter Act, noting that earlier in the year, when asked about the legislation, the former Massachusetts governor dodged the issue.
I just want to point out that when Gov. Romneys campaign was asked about the Lilly Ledbetter bill, whether he supported it, he said, Ill get back to you. And thats not the kind of advocacy that women need in any economy, Obama said, going on to attack Romney for his opposition to government funding of Planned Parenthood and the contraception mandate in Obamacare, painting Romneys opposition as a potential economic hindrance to women.
In my health care bill, I said insurance companies need to provide contraceptive coverage to everybody who is insured. Because this is not just a a health issue, its an economic issue for women. It makes a difference. This is money out of that familys pocket. Gov. Romney not only opposed it, he suggested that in fact employers should be able to make the decision as to whether or not a woman gets contraception through her insurance coverage, Obama said. Thats not the kind of advocacy that women need. When Gov. Romney says that we should eliminate funding for Planned Parenthood, there are millions of women all across the country, who rely on Planned Parenthood for, not just contraceptive care they rely on it for mammograms, for cervical cancer screenings.
Following the debate, pro-life groups blasted out myriad statements disputing Obamas assertion that Planned Parenthood provides mammograms.
Romney was not allotted time to respond fully to the presidents follow up, but in answering the next question the Republican nominee revisited his stance on contraception.
Id just note that I dont believe that bureaucrats in Washington should tell someone whether they can use contraceptives or not. And I dont believe employers should tell someone whether they could have contraceptive care of not. Every woman in America should have access to contraceptives, Romney said. And the presidents statement of my policy is completely and totally wrong.
Plenty of women are more focused on just landing a job at this point; they can lawyer up and shake down their employers later. I don’t think the “war on women” is going to fly, since any women with families can see that they’re steadily losing ground in our new “green” economy...
I don’t know how Romney missed this one, plus the departed economist saying she felt like a “piece of meat” while working for Obama. Or even the composite girlfriend.
We tried to tell him about Obama and Israel and he could care less....Obama is his main MAN!! GAG.
The entire pay disparity meme is a lie. The only difference in pay between men and women doing the same job is the woman’s employment decisions. Either she sat out the job market while her children were young or she chose a job that traded flexibility for lower pay.
I know I was shouting at the TV for Mitt to mention this...however, I didn’t know that Mitt had lot of women in his cabinet and did a national research.
Also Mitt could of mentioned the recent article about a woman saying “I don’t know he is in politics, he doesn’t really like people”...Romney should do an ad on that comment....
PP does not do mammagrams, I fact checked that comment by Obama. Found several articles on it. PP does teach how to do breast exams.
There was a thread here a few weeks back that said that Mitt is paying about 3 times to all his campaign personnel than Obama is paying his people.
Mitt doesn’t use a gender bias on pay, either.
Planned Parenthood has stated again & again that they DO NOT do mammograms. One of the PAX’s for Romney needs to put this out in a CLEAR AD.
A search of permits to operate such mammogram machines reveals that they could not find a SINGLE Planned Parenthood location that had such a permit-—which is a requirement for such machinery.
The entire pay disparity meme is a lie. The only difference in pay between men and women doing the same job is the womans employment decisions. Either she sat out the job market while her children were young or she chose a job that traded flexibility for lower pay.”””
Exactly.
Decide to not continue your education in your field.....because you are ‘only supplementing’ your husband’s income.
Decide to have babies & become a continuing ‘drop out’ of the employer’s recorded seniority records.
Decide to leave during working hours for children’s doctor’s appointments & such, leaving an empty desk.
I am female. I saw many women using all of these decisions for years & then complaining that I got promotions & pay advances.
I didn’t have any children.
I got further education.
I didn’t miss work.
I never had to ‘bring a doctor’s excuse if I called in sick because I rarely called in sick & my bosses knew I wouldn’t do so without actually being sick.
Because I lived alone, one boss actually asked me if he could get me anything-groceries- medication- etc- because he knew I hated being sick & didn’t have backup at the house to run such errands.
He was a very tough boss, but was a very fair one, also. I would go work for him again anywhere if he asked me to do so.
“Either she sat out the job market while her children were young or she chose a job that traded flexibility for lower pay.”
You’re absolutely right; the gender-warmongers apparently think they should still end up on the same salary scale. I can’t tell you how many women I work with who easily work almost an hour less each day than their male counterparts. In our current legal atmosphere, they aren’t just paid the same, but sometimes even better.
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