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**LIVE THREAD II** Second Presidential Debate - Mitt Romney vs Barack Obama (9:00 pm Eastern)
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Posted on 10/16/2012 6:08:59 PM PDT by I Am Not A Mod

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To: rcrngroup
"23 million unemployed, 15 million more on foodstamps, 9 million more at poverty levels or below"

The magic 47% ?

381 posted on 10/17/2012 10:43:02 AM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A WASTE - A SCAM!)
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To: Salamander

Hilarious. Wish you would have kept the whole thread. Do you remember what you were debating?


382 posted on 10/17/2012 10:50:10 AM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: svcw

All the snap polls have Romney up 4-6 points after debate

what snap polls? do you have links (pretty please? Lol).


383 posted on 10/17/2012 10:52:13 AM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: sickoflibs
I agree with you, and yes, if Romney were POTUS, America would be working. As Romney as often said, he can create jobs and run his businesses successfully, and the State of MA too, as Governor. He's got cred and oboma has NONE..oboma is a failed socialist “president” with a failed socialist record of “accomplishments” to his credit.
384 posted on 10/17/2012 10:55:08 AM PDT by itssme
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To: rurgan

I’ll look, give me some time.
Interestingly, some of the MSM is saying obama was winning as their graphics are showing their focus groups graphs showing Romney winning.


385 posted on 10/17/2012 10:55:33 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: rurgan

I think that particular Saturday night drunken pseudo opus involved him leaving America because life here was ‘too hard’.

IIRC, he was asking where he should move to.

He got a lot of ‘helpful suggestions’ from FReepers but I don’t think they were what he was hoping for.

[every Saturday night, like clockwork, he posts some inebriated vanity that starts a huge thread]


386 posted on 10/17/2012 11:01:33 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: Salamander

I read your page. You’re very creative (in a dark kind of way!).


387 posted on 10/17/2012 11:15:54 AM PDT by hummingbird (Lather, Rinse........BUT DO NOT REPEAT - REPEAT IS A WASTE - A SCAM!)
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To: Salamander

Yes I was shocked to learn Alice cooper was a conservative, just as I am shocked salamander is an attractive woman( nice hair )

Do you like Alice Cooper because he is conservative or for his music?


388 posted on 10/17/2012 11:18:20 AM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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To: hummingbird

That’s the nicest thing anybody’s ever said to me.

:)

I think I’ll add that to my ever-evolving “adjective list”.

;D


389 posted on 10/17/2012 11:18:28 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: rurgan

I like him because he’s risen above his youthful addictions, he’s a devout, literal Christian who built a huge arts & music oriented haven for street kids in Phoenix, he counsels/evangelizes addicted musicians, he’s a wonderful husband who worships his wife, he’s a great dad, he’s conservative, he’s a brilliant lyricist, he’s funny, he’s almost annoyingly nice, he loves animals.

I love his music and his self-deprecating sense of humor and his vaudevillian stage shows/morality plays are out of this world.

And thanks..:)

/blush


390 posted on 10/17/2012 11:25:51 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep. Clowns will eat me.)
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To: rurgan

What I am finding is somewhat different than what I saw last night.

CNN-Internal: O - 42, R - 39 (+/- 4.5)
NYT: O - 37, R - 30, undecided - 33 (+/- 4)
LA Times: O - 46, R - 33 (+/- 5)
FOX: O - 27, R - 65 (+/- 3)
—Interestingly 25% of the people watching the debate watched FOX.
MSNBC: O - 71, R - 27 (+/- 5)
—Only 10% of the people watching the debate on the watched MSNBC.

Still, looking. Going to look through my history and see what I was reading in the early AM. Sure hope I wasn’t asleep and just dreaming.
If you were able to listen to Limbaugh, he has been reporting on the debate and the internals of the polls - very interesting. Looks like the people interviewed give Romney high marks on nearly every category, so why the low debate numbers.
(Oh, all the people polled were supposedly undecided)


391 posted on 10/17/2012 11:32:12 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; riri; eyedigress; wolficatZ; Zeneta; ...
RE :”” “ Look Mr POTUS, the reason why you made up the story about the youtube riot is because you had already claimed that Bin Laden’s death made these diplomats safer and now they are dead due to your incompetence. “” (SOL suggested talking points for Romney)
.............
Romney needs to do this. Obama can’t get around it, because it is TRUE”(SJB response)

If I was prepping him he would kick butts in all the debates.

392 posted on 10/17/2012 11:38:56 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; riri; eyedigress; wolficatZ; Zeneta; DoughtyOne; ...

Crowley is screwed....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2946158/posts


393 posted on 10/17/2012 11:42:55 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs

” If I was prepping him he would kick butts in all the debates. “

NO KIDDING!


394 posted on 10/17/2012 11:44:04 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: I Am Not A Mod

Two things surprised me:

1. Why more wasn’t said about the program Romney set up in Mass. providing free college to resident youth. He mentioned it at the outset, but nobody really picked up on it later.

2. Re women’s issues, Romney didn’t mention the huge disparity in wages between men and women for people who work for Obama.

Neither is complicated, and even democrats could process this info in their pea brains.


395 posted on 10/17/2012 11:46:53 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: itssme; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; Impy
RE :”I agree with you, and yes, if Romney were POTUS, America would be working”

I had to go back to see what I posted because that doesn't sound like something I would say.

I posted “Ironically if Romney was POTUS it probably would be working’. I was imprecise with that comment so I can see how it could be read that way, my fault not yours.

What I was trying to say is that with O as ~ 4 year incumbent defending his record and Romney as challenger never POTUS the O : ‘tax the rich MORE so you feel it's fairer that everything is still crappy’ doesnt work that well.

BUT if Romney was the incumbent and O was the challenger and things sucked I bet THAT ‘raise taxes on the rich’ argument would play pretty well with voters, like 2008.

This is one of the parodoxes, victory brings defeat,.

I have no faith in Romney to fix anything, but that was not my point.

396 posted on 10/17/2012 1:33:01 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: svcw

I’m still disappointed in the prep Romney and his “advisors” did before the debate. He had an opportunity to slam the door on the Fraud last night and didn’t offer up the information that exposed the Fraud for the poser, the liar and incompetent POS he is.

I found myself screaming at the TV, go after this bastard, he’s lying, you know it, give the American public the facts... His white house and senate offices pay women less / Planned Parenthood is not simply about contraception, they provide the morning after pill and abortions, they have killed millions more black babies than white, they purposely recruited black religious leaders back in the 40s to help sell the idea of murdering black babies, Margaret Sanger the founder was a racist / Are you now taking responsibility for the murders of ambassador Stevens and three other American or will you let Hillary Clinton take responsibility / You didn’t answer the man’s questions, who refused to provide additional security to the embassy after numerous requests over months and don’t tell the American people you will find out after the investigation, it’s been over a month, you don’t know who in your administration refused to increase security by now ??? / Why has the AG refused to provide requested documents on Fast & Furious to the point he’s in contempt of congress, who ordered that program ? / Why are so many of the investments in “green energy” going to companies connected to your Super Pacs and bundlers, like George Kaiser & Solyandra, a 500 million dollar investment against the advice of the budget office / Are you suggesting gas prices were low in 2009 because the economy was weak, well the economy is even weaker now, according to your theory gas should be $ 1.50 a gallon at this point, and on and on.

Even though that pig moderator was trying her best to help the Fraud, Romney had every chance to slam the Fraud with the truth, to play hardball and he didn’t. He better get tough on Monday, it’s his last chance in front of the entire nation to show the people what a liar and incompetent POS The Fraud is. The MSM certainly isn’t going to do it in the last two weeks.

Obama is clearly a narcissist, and you can see him start to unravel when he’s exposed as a liar. Early in the debate we saw him lose his composure when Romney pressed him on the reduction on oil and gas development on federal lands, he caught him lying when the Fraud said they had increased production and you could see The Fraud trying to duck out of an answer. Romney needs some advice from a professional psychiatrist, because The Fraud can be unraveled if Romney pushes the right buttons. He needs to stay on top of every lie and force the Fraud to defend the lies. He’s dealing with a man who is not mentally stable, who has a very distorted view of reality and his importance. You challenge that reality and he will crack.


397 posted on 10/17/2012 1:44:43 PM PDT by Beatthedrum
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To: Beatthedrum

I really beleive obama is a psychopath.
A doctor wrote this for the lay person beyond medical explanations.
It’s called “The Mask of Sanity”
I really think it is a perfect description of obama.

**
Imagine - if you can - not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern for the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members. Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken.

And pretend that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools.

Now add to this strange fantasy the ability to conceal from other people that your psychological makeup is radically different from theirs. Since everyone simply assumes that conscience is universal among human beings, hiding the fact that you are conscience-free is nearly effortless.

You are not held back from any of your desires by guilt or shame, and you are never confronted by others for your cold-bloodedness. The ice water in your veins is so bizarre, so completely outside of their personal experience, that they seldom even guess at your condition.

In other words, you are completely free of internal restraints, and your unhampered liberty to do just as you please, with no pangs of conscience, is conveniently invisible to the world.

You can do anything at all, and still your strange advantage over the majority of people, who are kept in line by their consciences will most likely remain undiscovered.

How will you live your life?

What will you do with your huge and secret advantage, and with the corresponding handicap of other people (conscience)?
**

Then he goes on to explain different scenarios of additional personality types, it’s pretty scary.

I thought Romney did pretty well and answered what he could, the issues you listed are important to me as well, yet it is only two hours and an audience (eye roll) of code pick types.


398 posted on 10/17/2012 1:59:01 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker
What is your personal take on the debate?

I think it's another tie. Romney needs to be ready for the Benghazi question again, and he should be able to profit from O's buffoonish claims about the "anti-muslem-video." O also has some obvious targets to attack.

Final debate score after the 3rd debate. Will Bob Shieffer pull a Crowley? He is old enough to know not to sell out, but he is surrounded by leftists at work, but probably also in all aspects of his life.

399 posted on 10/17/2012 2:00:42 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

” Will Bob Shieffer pull a Crowley?”

Probably. It is outwardly apparent that left wingers consider their view of politics as sacred.


400 posted on 10/17/2012 2:10:06 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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