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To: ravenwolf
Great rant, and totally and utterly irrelevent.

The point at issue here is how taxes are collected, not what government spends its money on. The objects of government spending is a separate issue. If you disagree with some crazy scheme the government subsidises, then you are certainly entitled to campaign against it. If you think that taxes are too high, then you can certainly campaign against that too. But you don't get to refuse to pay on the grounds that you disagree with what it is being spent on.

Think on it. If you allow such a principle to stand, then you will have environuts refusing to pay income tax on the grounds that it will be going towards nuclear power, or even worse, nuclear weapons. Ravening moonbats will refuse to pay sales tax because the money might be buying a new jet fighter, or improved highways instead of carbon reducing public transport systems.

Britain has decided it will need x amount of money to pay for y amount of expenditure. You can quibble about the figures, but that is what the duly elected government of the UK has decided. Now if Starbucks, or any other entity - be it corporation or private citizen, does not pay its bit of that tax bill, that means that everyone else has to pay just that little bit more. That is just logically true. And as I am a UK taxpayer who regularly pays on the nail I'm none too happy about that.

I'm also quite sure, in spite of your bravado, that if some Brit company set up in the US and didnt pay any taxes for three years you wouldnt be too happy either, especially when your own highly inflated tax bill drops onto the porch.

16 posted on 10/16/2012 4:32:50 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9

The trouble is Vanders, that many people here on FR are crypto-anarchists see government as an evil to be thwarted at any opportunity, rather than a neccessary civic institution that needs to be maintained with taxes payable by every citizen.
Frankly, it annoys me to see large corporations avoiding tax with creative accounting, whilst ordinary plebs such as myself end up having to cough up the full amount and probably more thanks to their tax dodging. I find it hilarious that they view these people as heroes for cheating the government when they themselves are probably just ordinary guys like the rest of us who end up getting stiffed for more taxes to make up the shortfall caused by these tax-dodging corporations...


22 posted on 10/16/2012 6:41:11 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: Vanders9

But you don’t get to refuse to pay on the grounds that you disagree with what it is being spent on.


Yeah, we have people in this country who thinks along that same line and that is why this country is following right along in the steps of socialism.

If you believe the Government should be able to spend the tax money any way they choose i sure am glad you are still over there.

We already have too many people in this country who can not think of only one aspect of a particular issue.

For instance it is kind of ridicules to try to determine how to collect tax that should not be collected in the first place.

It is no different than figuring how to kill some one when you are not supposed to kill.

Use tax is what our Government is supposed to run on and if they can not do that then the people in Government needs to be replaced.

I don,t know if you are familiar with history or not but extortion money collected in the form of a tax is what got the tea from your country of socialists dumped into the harbor, that is also what should happen to the income tax.


Ravening moonbats will refuse to pay sales tax because the money might

So what has sales tax got to do with it? in you own words it is utterly irrelevent.

Besides you can refuse to pay sales tax just by not buying anything, a different issue.


I’m also quite sure, in spite of your bravado, that if some Brit company set up in the US and didnt pay any taxes for three years you wouldnt be too happy either, especially when your own highly inflated tax bill drops onto the porch.

You might think you are sure, but you don,t know how wrong you are, i am among the people who still believe that socialism is evil and income tax is a socialist program.

Big difference between income tax and use tax.

Use tax = if some one uses something they pay for it, income tax = extortion= socialism.


34 posted on 10/17/2012 6:29:27 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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