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To: what's up

Ryan was average at best. He had the truth on his side, but to win in a debate many times you have to get the last logically coherent word in and he didn’t do that. Two examples: Biden was dead wrong on the “Iran doesn’t have a missile to carry a nuclear weapon” argument, but Ryan didn’t defeat this argument as he should have. Another example is the Romney tax plan - Ryan made his point but was cut of when Biden said “Now you’re Jack Kennedy”. Ryan needed to come back to that issue with the facts to hammer his argument home and “win” the issue.


23 posted on 10/15/2012 7:11:17 PM PDT by PAR
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To: PAR
Don't agree.

Biden's Jack Kennedy remark was so silly that the best strategy was a quixotic look in response...Ryan nailed it.

And Ryan didn't argue further on the Iran topic because he sensed Biden's credibility was finished; he was right...Biden looked like a fool as he blabbered on alone.

The general opinion of the debate was that Biden looked like an idiot...Ryan's strategy to allow him space to do that was the perfect one IMO.

31 posted on 10/15/2012 7:54:53 PM PDT by what's up
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To: PAR

Point taken, but I do think ryan was going with the Twain strategy of, “Do not argue with an idiot they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”

NO kidding. and I believe it worked.


39 posted on 10/15/2012 8:43:24 PM PDT by stanne
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I recall reading that Biden told a whopper third lie that Ryan should have been prepared for and instantly rebutted Biden... is when Biden said he voted against the war in Iraq & Afghanistan, and in reality, Biden voted for both of these war resolutions, along with most of the demoRATs & the entire top leadership of demoRATs in the Senate & House. Instead he let Biden get away with a another big fat lie.


55 posted on 10/15/2012 10:37:09 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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