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To: Uncle Chip

The problem is, everything posted there is conjecture. You weren’t there, I wasn’t there. Did he have the ability to retreat? Did he have the time to retreat and close the door? Was his assailant between him and any possible retreat? This is why retreat laws are BS and ill thought out.

In a nutshell, guy comes on to his property to violently settle a grievance. Guy gets shot and killed for his trouble. His mistake was going on to the other guys property to deal with the issue... violently.

If someone comes on my property with intent to do harm, I’m not retreating. I have no legal obligation to do so. Duty to retreat has the very high potential of putting others at harm. What if someone comes on my property to commit a violent act. I retreat in the house, said person follows me. Now, my wife and daughter may be home and in direct danger because I retreated because some idiot busy body law maker decided he knows best how I should live my life than I do. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. I’m eliminating the threat immediately and keeping my family safe.

Stand you ground laws are being put in place around the nation because of examples like I just typed above. Those scenarios have happened and will happen.


148 posted on 10/12/2012 5:05:33 AM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: BCR #226

<>The problem is, everything posted there is conjecture.<>

So is the hypothetical example that you gave.

<> You weren’t there, I wasn’t there.<>

But those who said this were:

“The neighbors are witnesses to the fact that verify her story that he shot him once, looked over at her, she screamed bloody murder, ‘Why did you shoot him? Why did you shoot him?,’” said Ron. “He looked over at her again, turned, and shot Dan twice more. She swears up and down Dan never moved that whole time other than clutching his chest from the first shot.”
https://www.facebook.com/JusticeForDanFredenberg

The first shot to the abdomen was the one that killed him. The other two were gratuitous — but telling.

Sometimes a case rests on the answer to a single question:

Why didn’t he close the garage door before going for his gun??? or why didn’t he close the garage door after he got his gun??? or why did he wait for him at the doorway to the mudroom inside the garage instead of the entrance to the garage???

Did he leave the garage door open as an invitation knowing and expecting her husband to come in through it and then giving him the right to shoot to kill??

Would that be evidence of premeditation???


150 posted on 10/12/2012 6:49:59 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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