[CottonBall]

As if the country is going to allow two new Californias to send a total of four liberal Senators to Washington DC. Why shouldn't Texas be allowed to split up into a union of federated Texan states and send an avalanche of brand new US Senators to Capitol Hill?

There's no way to split California vertically or horizontally and come up with some new conservative state to counteract the current liberal debt monster that is modern California. If you look at the state voting maps by county, if the 3 liberal strongholds on the coast are put in their own state, what's left is easily red. And the 'wasteland' you speak of probably still has more population than most states.

[The KG9 Kid]

How are you going to create the borders of a new state composed of nothing but 80% of California's coastline from Humboldt to Monterey, skipping SLO, Santa Barbara, and Ventura then pick back up again and include Los Angeles county?

What you're trying to do is place the overwhelming number of California liberals in their own segregated playpen so they can do no harm to the minority of decent folk and California can go back to being what it was in the 1930s.

Right, and if you could do that I'll move back to CA within a week. It's fantasy.