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To: NKP_Vet
It's 2012. I can't believe you're defending slavery.

Do you boys still wear the white robe and the pointy hats?

Like most cowards, you enjoy the luxury of hindsight and cherry-picked quotations.

If you can find that Lincoln disdained blacks before 1860, certainly you can find his quotes and writings from after 1860-- when it actually mattered. His views evolved, and he had to deal with something that you clearly don't: reality.

It's immediately obvious to anyone looking at Lincoln that, whatever he said before the war, he thought differently once he was in it. And he was in it before he was sworn in.

Lincoln didn’t give a damn about slaves and only made slavery an issue when he wanted a “moral” reason to murder Southerners.

You're saying he hated blacks, and wanted to murder southerners? Really? Seems to me that if Lincoln hated blacks he'd have let the south go.

But the logical outcome of the war was the freeing of slaves; he pursued the war with the intention of winning. The question of 'southern independence' is moot, because 'the south' was inextricably linked to slavery. Lincoln was defending the Constitution for all men. That's something that you boys in the robes don't mention much in your defense of the south: the Constitution. Or slavery, you always leave out slavery. Wonder why?

I'll further point out (against your claim that Lincoln was looking to murder southerners) that his wife was from Kentucky, a southern state. Her brothers fought in the Confederate Army (a number were killed); one brother served the CSA as a surgeon. Even a cursory reading of history is enough to disprove your idiotic assertions. Lincoln did not want war, and he did not relish the death of anyone, north or south.

And never forget his bogus Emancipation didn’t free the first slave.

Your idea is that he shouldn't have issued it?

Lincoln made the moral case that slavery was wrong, and it was issued it became impossible to separate slavery from the argument. For a historical corollary as to how this type of leadership works, go look up the Venona Papers; read about the effect that Reagan calling the Soviet Union an 'Evil Empire' had upon the Soviet army generals. Then come back and argue your point.

Lincoln was a lying, two-bit railroad lawyer who was the doing the bidding of the Northern Industrial millionares who controlled him.

He got elected President twice, and is admired the world over as an icon of freedom. He answered to his conscience, not the newspaper or industrialists.

Tell me: what have you got?

Didn't think so.

Small man, anyone?

21 posted on 10/15/2012 6:10:51 PM PDT by IncPen (Educating Barack Obama has been the most expensive project in human history)
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To: IncPen

“His views evolved”

50 year old men’s view “evolve”. He was a white supremist who thought he was superior to blacks. He wanted to ship them back Africa. He was also a socialist who destroyed the form of government our Founding Fathers fought and died for. Karl Marx called him his favorite American. Lincoln remains the only president who caused more American casualties in four years than all of our foreign enemies have in two centuries. He is also the only president who has left mass graves of Americans in his wake on American soil. The only thing tragic about his assassination, is that it did not occur four and half years and 750,000 deaths sooner.


22 posted on 10/15/2012 6:36:07 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: IncPen

“His views evolved”

50 year old men’s view “evolve”. He was a white supremist who thought he was superior to blacks. He wanted to ship them back Africa. He was also a socialist who destroyed the form of government our Founding Fathers fought and died for. Karl Marx called him his favorite American. Lincoln remains the only president who caused more American casualties in four years than all of our foreign enemies have in two centuries. He is also the only president who has left mass graves of Americans in his wake on American soil. The only thing tragic about his assassination, is that it did not occur four and half years and 750,000 deaths sooner.


23 posted on 10/15/2012 6:36:52 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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