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Demography is Destiny: Why the Falling U.S. Birth Rates Are So Troubling
TIME ^ | 10/07/2012 | By JOSH SANBURN

Posted on 10/07/2012 12:17:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

We’re becoming Europe. At least, that’s what a long line of U.S. birth-rate figures seems to being telling us. And that’s bad news for the future of the country.

New numbers released by the U.S. government on Tuesday show record-low birth rates in 2011: the general fertility rate (63.2 per 1,000 women ages 15 to 44) was the lowest ever recorded; the birth rate for teenagers ages 15 to 19 declined; birth rates for women ages 20 to 24 hit a record low; and rates for Hispanic and non-Hispanic black women dipped. Some birth rates remained unchanged, like those of women in their late 40s. Only women ages 35 to 39 and 40 to 44 are more likely to have babies now than in the past.

The data are part of a broader post–financial crash trend. Every year since 2007, when the number of births in the U.S. hit 4.3 million, Americans have brought fewer babies into the world. Much of that has to do with the recession: Americans apparently decided that they couldn’t afford to have as many kids in an unstable economy, even if they were married.

Such declines are typical during economic crises. During the Great Depression, birth rates dropped significantly, and the same thing happened during the stagnation of the 1970s. “We’ve seen this previously throughout the last 100 years,” says Mark Mather, a demographer for the Population Reference Bureau. “Fertility rates drop in periods of economic stress.”

It appears that the decline in birth rates has at least begun to slow, likely reflecting the fact that Americans are feeling more confident about their economic future. The birth rate fell by 1% in 2011, as opposed to the 2% and 3% drops in prior years.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthrates; demographics; demography
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1 posted on 10/07/2012 12:17:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

NOTE:

Even before the euro crisis, experts were sounding the alarm over Europe’s gloomy demographic future. How is the continent supposed to take care of an aging population when its birth rates are pointing toward a shrinking workforce in the decades to come?

The U.S. rate hasn’t fallen to European levels yet. The birth rate of children per woman in the U.S. is about 1.9. But the downward trend will almost certainly force the U.S. to rethink how to financially support the elderly and fund programs like Social Security and Medicare, ongoing economic debates that will take on even more weight as the country ages.


2 posted on 10/07/2012 12:18:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind

What we need to do is give a tax breaks on FAMILIES... that is because both parents are working 2 or more jobs to pay taxes. We need to give families a life...


3 posted on 10/07/2012 12:23:47 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (Yes, Obama, I had help with my business. MY CUSTOMERS!)
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To: SeekAndFind

A trend noticed and written about by Patrick Buchanan a decade or so back.

My comment

Families trying to maintain a modest standard of living by abandoning large families.

I’m from a 5 children family. When I was growing up in the 60’s that was the norm in my all white suburban neighborhood.


4 posted on 10/07/2012 12:25:30 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: SeekAndFind

Mexican Americans are breeding like rabbits. It is a bit ironic that the problems brought about by falling birthrate might in some way be mitigated by this.


5 posted on 10/07/2012 12:25:41 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is what happens in a welfare state. The cost of having children rises, because of the burden government puts on producers to support everybody else. Also, people tend to think they do not need children to help them in their old age, as government has taken over many of the duties and responsibilities formerly the purview of families. Finally, as women pursue careers, they are less likely to want many kids.

So, irresponsible people and Muslims are having kids that the rest of us support. The future does not look bright.


6 posted on 10/07/2012 12:28:59 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: Pining_4_TX

Sums it up accurately.


7 posted on 10/07/2012 12:32:03 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: SeekAndFind

The 47% are breeding like rabbits.


8 posted on 10/07/2012 12:33:57 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: SeekAndFind

One has to wonder about what the difference is between conception rates and birth rates.
Are conception rates changeing?

Is the lowered birth rate due to the higher fetus murder rate?

If we were not advertising for women to use Planned parenthood as a birth control method and paying for their multiple trips there, what would the birth rate be?

Now we are paying for free contraceptive devices, it can be seen to anyone with an ounce of common sense that it has become the role of the government to decrease the population.

Our Government does not want whites and Negroes to breed, yet they are perfectly fine with Hispanics and Muslims repopulating America.

If this isn’t the plan, it is certainly the result.


9 posted on 10/07/2012 12:35:07 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Pining_4_TX
Agree with everything you wrote, especially this, “ as women pursue careers, they are less likely to want many kids.”.

This embrace of feminism is the number one reason IMO. Female fertility starts declining at age 25 yet you rarely see married women in that age group with kids. Girls are taught to establish themselves in a career first, then have children. That in and of itself will cause a woman to have few or zero children.

10 posted on 10/07/2012 12:47:15 PM PDT by Varda
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To: SeekAndFind

it’s funny that birth rates go down in 1st world countries in times of economic crisis...

and yet ... in 3rd world countries that live in a constant state of financial crisis... birth rates are skyrocketing.


11 posted on 10/07/2012 12:47:34 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: SeekAndFind

****the birth rate for teenagers ages 15 to 19 declined****

This is the only ‘news’ in the article and it’s good. As for the rest of the ‘data’ there are no surprises. Marriage used to be the safe house for having children and, prior to birth control methods - the sky was the limit. i.e. more children to care for the farm - and later, the elderly parents.

The ebb and flow of birth rates seems to follow - or lead existing population crises. In history birth rates were affected by drought, crop/food shortages, wars, flu/plague pandemics, depressions. Today the birth rate is affected by scientific manipulations, sexual identity and road rage;)


12 posted on 10/07/2012 12:50:15 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Life is prickly - carry tweezers.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where I live, the illegals are pumping out babies like there is no tomorrow.

The more kids they pump out, the more benefits they get from the government.

I hardly ever see whites, Asians, and blacks with babies.


13 posted on 10/07/2012 12:53:12 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Actually in the real world out there the birth rates in third world countries has generally been dropping rapidly for a number of years.
14 posted on 10/07/2012 1:00:21 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind
Living by liberalism's anti-human life, anti-Western gospel has it's consequences. It's ultimately oppression, suffering and death for any civilization that adopts it. Europe ate it up and Americans seem to want more of it so we can die, too. It's hard to beleive that with all the legal and illegal immigration, America's population is decreasing. He's probably not counting the millions of illegals who have squatted here.
15 posted on 10/07/2012 1:06:56 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Pining_4_TX
This is what happens in a welfare state. The cost of having children rises, because of the burden government puts on producers to support everybody else.

This is so absolutely true.

Democrats often wonder how the lower-middle class can support Republicans. The reason you gave is precisely it. They know they're getting screwed by the welfare state.

The will never have a problem. They'll just pay more for what they need as prices rise.

But the lower-middle class is priced out of those things the welfare state provides for "free".

16 posted on 10/07/2012 1:11:15 PM PDT by conservative sympathizer
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To: SeekAndFind

“How is the continent supposed to take care ... “

There’s a more concerning subject than that, and a reason I never understood why the radical muslims do what they do, especially since they are so patient.

You need 2.2 kids per each couple to maintain a population (in this case, population= culture.) I forget the number for Europe - which resembles our blue states - something like 1.2. That’s a parabolic, not geometric curve - in the direction of ‘death of the culture.’

In Europe, the population slack is being replaced by Muslims.
In the US I believe the Red states save us at about even because Red State birth rates compensate for Blue States.

Mark Steyn was one of the (and perhaps THE) first to begin yelling about this 10 years ago.

It trumps politics - because it doesn’t matter whether the western culture populations move left or right. Why? They are eliminating themselves in reverse proportion to how bunnies multiply/replicate.

And who is replicating? And who is immigrating?

That’s why Mark’s theme is often on ‘Death of the West’ ... he’s not just saying ‘oh we are moving too left’ ... or that ‘gosh too much immigration’

What he’s saying is that we are KILLING OURSELVES by not replacing ourselves.

So I wonder sometimes why the muslims don’t just keep immigrating quietly into Europe, and then in a few generations they can have simply take over politically.

In a sense, having 1 child fewer than the 2.2 average needed to keep a population steady, is just one child an invading force never needs to kill. So we’re fighting their battle against us, for them. We’re on their side by not reproducing.

This trumps politics - because without enough lefties and righties to fight it out, in comes the third, dominant culture - whatever it is.

It was about 7 years ago, after reading Steyn and some others that I realized ... this is simply a more foundational subject than even the Constitution.

When there is no one left to practice the Constitution, or when the lumpen electorate can come up with a 3/4 majority - because the electorate is a ‘replacement culture,’ they can just amend, amend, amend, and bye bye Western Culture - both liberals and conservatives would perish in that fire.

No need for war - no need even for revolution. So why don’t the Muslim’s just wait it out - immigrate, immigrate, immigrate?

The French, maybe 7 years ago, in fear of exactly this, began rewarding couples financially for having more than 1 baby, and as I recall it was significantly more ... significant ... than simply adding a deduction for another dependent.


17 posted on 10/07/2012 1:13:13 PM PDT by HannibalHamlinJr
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To: Varda
Interesting. My wife has a close friend who is an a formally educated member one of the ‘helping’ professions. She was married to a truly evil and nearly insane man who was an attorney. They had a terrible life and all three of their children are severely scarred under performing adults who have no children. She, due to her experience including marrying much to early, relentlessly trashes marriage and family to the extent of discouraging any young woman she meets who is engaged from ‘putting marriage (and by inference family) before having a ‘rewarding and liberating career’. I wonder how many women out there are like her. Make a rash and foolish decision about a spouse and then spend your life denouncing the institution of matrimony and the family rather than admitting to ones responsibility for their mistakes.
18 posted on 10/07/2012 1:15:29 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: HannibalHamlinJr
Unfortunately a number of the red states are saddled with a very large underclass of generally minority dysfunctional and maladaptive types. The only thing that keeps states such as Louisiana and Mississippi from being tightly contested or slipping into the blue column is that these people are so screwed up and disorganized that it is monumentally difficult to get them to the polls in anything like the numbers they represent in the census. Only in big cites or bigger towns such as New Orleans can a substantial minority block voting be arranged. Fortunately the rat party leadership in much of the rural south still consists of significant numbers of ‘good ole boys’ who are still Dixiecrats under the skin. They don't really want all those Amish getting stirred up about what the state owes them. In Louisiana, for example, the Mahdi ran poorly in the rat primary in many rural parishes and actually lost in about a dozen parishes. If the dems ever figure out or are willing to really invest the money and time and fight the fight in the rural south to get the Amish appropriately assertivated then it is going to be a black day for the GOP.
19 posted on 10/07/2012 1:24:34 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: SeekAndFind

It WORKS.....

20 posted on 10/07/2012 1:27:13 PM PDT by traumer
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