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1 posted on 10/05/2012 3:55:16 PM PDT by presidio9
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Women have fought and died in every American war,

One American service woman died as a result of enemy fire in Vietnam.

Lt. Sharon Lane was a nurse and was killed when a piece of shrapnel from a commando led mortar attack hit Ward 4 of the 312th Evacuation Hospital, Chu Lai.

32 posted on 10/05/2012 4:50:54 PM PDT by ansel12
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Women in the infantry are great......in the movies.


33 posted on 10/05/2012 4:53:00 PM PDT by RedwM
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Right.....

36 posted on 10/05/2012 5:07:35 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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When you get shot you know that 120 pound gal next to you will be ready to throw you across her shoulders and dog trot you to the pick up zone.


40 posted on 10/05/2012 5:42:49 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obamaspeak: An army of pompous phrases marching across the landscape in search of an idea.)
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CSA Ordierno is pushing females into the Ranger Course starting in FY 13. That’s how FUBAR things have become in the Army.


43 posted on 10/05/2012 5:51:24 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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They aren't doing this to the military to make all things fair. They are doing it precisely to weaken our military beyond repair, so that it can not defend us when we really need it.

Kruschev would be so proud.

44 posted on 10/05/2012 5:59:25 PM PDT by Slyfox
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Whatever. Women stopped being feminine a long time ago, hence guys like me (40, single, never married).


45 posted on 10/05/2012 6:00:10 PM PDT by the anti-liberal
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Young men and women, continually learn to be more frugal and healthy. Become more self-sufficient each month. Learn to produce something useful. Practice self-defense diligently for the rest of your lives. Be humble. Be nonpolitical. Don’t enlist.


46 posted on 10/05/2012 6:01:19 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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Think about the SciFi and other “adventure” dramas you have seen at the movies or on TV.

There are usually some babes who are part of the heroic characters in the story line and what do you often see them do in the action part of the films. They get in there and mix it up with the males be they be bad guys or just a friendly bar room fight. You will often see some 120 lb gal knock out with one punch some 260 lb 6 foot 6 inch bad guy (or absorb several of his punches before she lands the coup de grâce .)

Now really! Think about it!
Women on average have half the physical strength of men. (I have seen figures as low as 40% of the strength & as high as 60%. I will split the difference and say 50%) It's not really strength its also the ability to absorb punishment. Women's bodies just don't have the structure to take that many physical blows without a debilitating injury occurring. (Or stress on the joints! There are some revealing labor injury statistics on this !) Men on average can and yes there are always exceptions (And this is NOT the same thing as pain of childbirth!). Every time I see this type of stuff on TV, I start pointing out the physical absurdity of it. My wife yells at me its TV...It's TV!

We have probably had 30 years of this sort of “visual conditioning”. It's no surprise to me that modern “decision makers’ have confused that fantasy with reality.

Confusing fantasy with reality seems to be a common thread in modern society these days.

50 posted on 10/05/2012 6:33:44 PM PDT by Reily (l)
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Add to that 70pd pack, a couple of belts of machine gun ammo. A few 60MM mortar rounds. And lets not forget hand grenades and smoke grenades. Plus ammo for the M4. And a helmet and body armor. Your are talking well over 100lbs. And then of course there is not being able to bathe for weeks at a time. Yes, let us lower the standards to be fair. S/
51 posted on 10/05/2012 6:34:03 PM PDT by JimC214
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Hmmm...If queers, why not women?.../s

Chesty must be spinning at about a million RPM...

This year's birthday party is going to be borderline revolutionary...Last year's was already close to it...

58 posted on 10/05/2012 7:33:18 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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Why is it that we never hear about women headed for the NFL? If women can go to the front lines certainly they can play pro football with the guys. Political correctness will send women to the infantry but real football will always be played by big, strong MEN. No girlymen or burlygirls.


60 posted on 10/05/2012 8:15:29 PM PDT by informavoracious (I am a Sedevacantist. I believe the chair is EMPTY.)
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Females in the proper front-line roles (ie, pilots, truck drivers, tank drivers, artillery crews, etc) did the USSR a lot of good during WWII (many of the Soviet Union’s top snipers were females), so perhaps there is some merit to this.

However, that is being said with the full knowledge of political correctness nowadays, as well as the full knowledge that some people view equality as a means to an end, not an end in and of itself.


62 posted on 10/05/2012 8:16:36 PM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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I know that this is an issue that some women support, but most women ignore. The women who support it have prevailed because most women ignore it.

Most women think it doesn't really apply to them, since they haven't made a choice to go into the armed forces, let alone to serve in combat. Isn't "choice" such a lovely, comfortable illusion?

But the precedent is being set. We have come from a society where men only were drafted and sent to war in order to spare our women from all that "war in person" is, to one where that kind of protectiveness of the so-called "weaker sex" just seems illogical and old fashioned. And also, indefensible.

The Draft is not over, it's just not being used right now. In the case of another world war, the "voluntary" nature of armed service will quickly be replaced by conscription, and in view of all the precedent set by placing women in close proximity to harm's way, there is no way that the "weaker sex" will be exempt from it. And having crossed the barrier about women in combat, there is no way to justify exempting them from that either.

I pray I'm wrong about that, men of my generation sacrificed their lives and freedom to keep our women safe an away from war, but that's not where we are today...

75 posted on 10/06/2012 8:28:18 AM PDT by Kenton (Happiness is watching MSNBC's meltdown after the first Presidential debate.)
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