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To: count-your-change
The police have huge powers and with power comes responsibility.

Unfortunately with power also comes sovereign immunity. "Sorry, we screwed up, but you can't even sue us in civil court, let alone file criminal charges. Too bad for you!!"

20 posted on 09/29/2012 5:32:00 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan
Unfortunately with power also comes sovereign immunity. "Sorry, we screwed up, but you can't even sue us in civil court, let alone file criminal charges. Too bad for you!!"

That's not only wrong, it's evil.

21 posted on 09/29/2012 5:34:12 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: coloradan

“Unfortunately with power also comes sovereign immunity. “Sorry, we screwed up, but you can’t even sue us in civil court, let alone file criminal charges. Too bad for you!!”

I might try a different tack. Based upon this and other recent evidence, which is starting to pile up, I wonder if a US citizen can appeal to the UN to have the US declared a terrorist state or American citizens as oppressed peoples. That would be hilarious. Because that would completely undermine our entire foreign “holier than thou” policy, this crap would end very quickly regardless of which of the same political parties is in charge here.

I do wonder, though: HOW did they miss the dog?


48 posted on 09/29/2012 7:22:56 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: coloradan
Indiana earlier this year passed what is called “a right to resist law” that removes some that immunity.
51 posted on 09/29/2012 7:36:19 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: coloradan
Unfortunately with power also comes sovereign immunity. "Sorry, we screwed up, but you can't even sue us in civil court, let alone file criminal charges. Too bad for you!!"

That is the lie they are trying to repeat until it becomes true.
The US Supreme Court has already ruled on this sort of immunity issue, stating:

(a) By its terms, 1983 "creates a species of tort liability that on its face admits of no immunities." Imbler v. Pachtman, 424 U.S. 409, 417 . Its language is absolute and unqualified, and no mention is made of any privileges, immunities, or defenses that may be asserted. Rather, the statute imposes liability upon "every person" (held in Monell v. New York City Dept. of Social Services, 436 U.S. 658 , to encompass municipal corporations) who, under color of state law or custom, "subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States . . . to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws." And this expansive sweep of 1983's language is confirmed by its legislative history. Pp. 635-636. [445 U.S. 622, 623]
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(d) Rejection of a construction of 1983 that would accord municipalities a qualified immunity for their good-faith constitutional violations is compelled both by the purpose of 1983 to provide protection to those persons wronged by the abuse of governmental authority and to deter future constitutional violations, and by considerations of public policy. In view of the qualified immunity enjoyed by most government officials, many victims of municipal malfeasance would be left remediless if the city were also allowed to assert a good-faith defense. The concerns that justified decisions conferring qualified immunities on various government officials - the injustice, particularly in the absence of bad faith, of subjecting the official to liability, and the danger that the threat of such liability would deter the official's willingness to execute his office effectively - are less compelling, if not wholly inapplicable, when the liability of the municipal entity is at issue. Pp. 650-656.

The same reasoning applies to US CODE Chapter 18, Sections 241 & 242; which are federal felonies for "Deprivation of rights under color of law" and "conspiracy against rights."

60 posted on 09/30/2012 7:05:24 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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