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Tesla shares drop after cutting outlook [amends loan agreement with U.S.Energy Dept]
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | September 25, 2012 | Mark Clothier

Posted on 09/26/2012 8:39:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Tesla Motors Inc., the electric-car maker led by Elon Musk, fell the most in two months after cutting its revenue outlook for the third quarter because of supplier shortcomings and other delays in the production of its Model S sedan.

Tesla slid nearly 10 percent to $27.64 Tuesday after the company said in a regulatory filing that it expects to generate $44 million to $46 million in third-quarter sales, compared with analyst estimates of $83.1 million.

..........Already the company's largest shareholder, Musk may buy 33,311 more shares, the company said in the filing. Tesla, whose investors include Toyota Motor Corp. and Daimler AG, said it now expects to exceed its plan to produce 20,000 of the electric cars next year, when it projected it would earn its first profit.

The company amended its loan agreement with the U.S. Energy Department and may need to do so again if it fails to raise enough money from investors. Tesla plans to begin repaying its Energy Department loans in the fourth quarter.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: electriccar; elonmusk; green; pritzker; tesla
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To: Iron Munro

Not instinct. Payback.


21 posted on 09/26/2012 10:39:40 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: green iguana

If stuff goes through the crapper again, you can’t guarantee they won’t raise the car price on you AFTER the fact, like they did before.


22 posted on 09/26/2012 10:41:49 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Chances Are

Would you risk parking it in your garage overnight, charging?


23 posted on 09/26/2012 10:43:09 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: spawn44

I think the harassment of supposed save the earth people, who have yet to walk the walk, must now begin. Hoist them on their own eco-pitards.


24 posted on 09/26/2012 10:45:09 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: green iguana

Have the fixed the problem where if the battery fully discharges, the car becomes a worthless brick?


25 posted on 09/26/2012 10:52:34 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

Yes, that one’s fixed. Not the most elegant fix tho’... the controlling software will now shut down the car if the battery charge falls too low. So you have a useless brick until you can get it charged up. It does give a warning prior to shutdown to give you time to hopefully get to a place where you can charge it.


26 posted on 09/26/2012 11:01:15 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Tesla plans to begin repaying its Energy Department loans in the fourth quarter.”

Right.

And I expect to nab the next Noble prize in physics.


27 posted on 09/26/2012 11:04:13 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: green iguana

Thanks. That would seem prudent. :)

But, as you indicate, it doesn’t really fix the problem. It will make it less likely, but it still can happen.

thanks for the info.


28 posted on 09/26/2012 11:04:30 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Reader’s Digest version of story:

Tesla Motors, Inc., maker of the world’s most expensive golf carts, lost 10% of its value yesterday when it missed its revenue projections by 50%. Nonetheless, there’s still plenty of money left from the original taxpayer loan from the Department of Energy to make additional contributions to Obama’s re-election campaign. In other news, the sun rose this morning over the Atlantic coast.


29 posted on 09/26/2012 11:09:21 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: spawn44
Tesla has the same problems as the other electric vehicles that are not selling according to company projections. Range, price and length of time and number of places to charge up the batteries.

Imagine the caterwauling when the purchasers of the VOLT, Leaf, Prius, Honda EV, etc. go to trade them in when the batteries are going bad and out of warranty.

They will probably have to pay the dealers to take them.

That will be the true test of their "Greenie" credentials.


30 posted on 09/26/2012 12:04:25 PM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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To: D-fendr
"Have they fixed the problem where if the battery fully discharges, the car becomes a worthless brick?"

No, it starts out as a worthless brick. The battery problem is just frosting on the brick.

31 posted on 09/26/2012 12:46:17 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: green iguana

Hmmm, isn’t that a known issue with lithium batteries, though? If they discharge all the way, they’re worthless. Cell phone chargers have circuitry to prevent this already, AFAIK.


32 posted on 09/26/2012 2:08:08 PM PDT by redtetrahedron ("Before I formed thee in the bowels of thy mother, I knew thee" - Jer 1:5)
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To: norwaypinesavage; All

“....Tesla built the Supercharger network, which can take a Model S from flat to full in an hour, in secret at six locations in California. Those solar carports, which look a little like regular filling stations, will be switched on next month and the car company is planning more in “high traffic corridors” across the US and in Europe and Asia in the second half of next year.

But even for Model S owners, the network comes with a catch. The rapid charging from the carport will take its toll on the lithium-ion batteries in the vehicles, so the Supercharger is only for occasional use....”

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/26/tesla_supercharger_network/


33 posted on 09/26/2012 3:01:19 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Chances Are
If they can find 20,000 rich guys who need a new plaything, then more power to them. The sucking of hundreds of millions of dollars off the taxpayer is the real crime here.
34 posted on 09/26/2012 6:10:45 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Is Tesla located in Pelosi’s district in NorCal?


35 posted on 09/26/2012 6:13:05 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: Lx

I don’t know, but my buddies daughter just put down a 5 grand deposit on a Tesla SUV that isn’t even coming out until 2014.

PT Barnum continues to be right.....


36 posted on 09/26/2012 6:15:28 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: nascarnation
Their corporate headquarters are in Palo Alto, CA, which is in the 14 District and represented by Democrat Anna Eshoo. She and Pelosi do collude on energy (etc)

"...Energy

In 2005, Eshoo worked with Nancy Pelosi to develop the Democratic Innovation Agenda, which calls for America to achieve independence from Middle East oil over the next ten years. She has led efforts to raise fuel standards for automakers, and pursued reliance on alternative energy sources both in California and nationally. Legislation includes:

* H.R. 6, Creating Long-Term Energy Alternatives for the Nation (CLEAN) Energy Act, co-sponsor - Repeals $14 billion in subsidies to the gas and oil industries, and commits that money to renewable resources.

* H.R. 1506, Fuel Economy Reform Act, co-sponsor - Raises fuel economy standards, with a target goal of 35 miles per gallon by 2018.

* H.R. 1590, Safe Climate Act, co-sponsor - An emissions reduction bill which includes a provision calling for 20% of all electricity generated in the United States to come from renewable resources by 2008.

* H.R. 550, Securing America's Energy Independence Act, co-sponsor - Extends tax credits for homeowners and business using solar energy.

* S. 2598, Strategic Petroleum Reserve Fill Suspension and Consumer Protection Act - Temporarily suspends filling of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, in order to lower the cost of petroleum to consumers.

* H.R. 6074, Gas Price Relief for Consumers Act - Authorizes lawsuits against oil cartel members for price fixing.

* H.R. 1742, A bill to establish a program to deploy and integrate plug-in electric drive vehicles in multiple regions, which was ultimately incorporated into the body of H.R. 2454, the American Clean Energy and Security Act, which was the primary energy bill for 2009.

Click here to download a copy of Eshoo's floor statement on H.R. 3321, the New Direction for Energy Independence Act."...Source

37 posted on 09/27/2012 1:16:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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38 posted on 10/08/2012 4:03:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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