Voting laws may disenfranchise 10 million Hispanic U.S. citizens: study

Yahoo News ^ | 9/24/2012 | Patricia Zengerle

[Former Fetus]

New voting laws in 23 of the 50 states could keep more than 10 million Hispanic U.S. citizens from registering and voting, a new study said on Sunday, a number so large it could affect the outcome of the November 6 election.

The Latino community accounts for more than 10 percent of eligible voters nationally. But the share in some states is high enough that keeping Hispanic voters away from the polls could shift some hard-fought states from support for Democratic President Barack Obama and help his Republican rival, Mitt Romney.

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That imposes onerous and sometimes expensive documentation requirements on voters, especially targeting naturalized American citizens, many of whom are Latino, the liberal group said.

[The Toll]

These people have absolutely no idea of the bloodshed they are setting up for their childrens future. National borders are lines drawn in blood. Erase them at your peril fools!

[lacrew]

“With the advent of computers and technology it would take some effort but programs could be set up to cross reference items such as death certificates, felony convictions, driver license.”

While I don’t disagree, such a program would a) take forever, and b) could only be done using SS numbers...something I’m not sure I want every election official to have access to.

The simplest solution is....ID. And, it can/will be implemented now.

[TribalPrincess2U]

BS!

Not if they’re LEGAL.

[Cherokeesquaw]

Laws in effect in one state and pending in two others require proof of citizenship for voter registration....Nine states have passed restrictive photo identification laws that impose costs in time and money for millions of Latinos.....

Does anyone have any idea what States these are? I’d love to know. I hope they’re battleground States. Help me out here if you know; please.

[Durus]

Can you even become a naturalized citizen without ending up with proper ID? Is it possible?

[Lorianne]

I find it an mystery why Latinos are genetically incapable of obtaining I.D. (seemingly, according to the media).

Some scientists should look into this very strange genetic trait. It would be fascinating to break down the genome on this.

[cripplecreek]

In Michigan our ballot application has a check box that asks if we’re a legal American citizen and the liberals are squealing like pigs over it.

[KarlInOhio]

I wonder why liberals beclown themselves by putting such drivel into writing. As a natural born US citizen the only real paperwork I have to prove I am a citizen is a somewhat worn copy of my birth certificate made from a microfilm when I was a kid. Naturalized citizens would have an entire paper trail from when they were resident aliens and then finally got their citizenship.

If anything, a naturalized citizen would be far more likely to have proper ID because (I think) they were required to have ID on them when they were still legal aliens. If I visit another country I have my passport on me all the time.

[Cherokeesquaw]

I hope you’re in a solid Red or a solid Blue State where the fraud wouldn’t matter much.

[The Sons of Liberty]

Voting laws may disenfranchise 10 million Hispanic U.S. citizens: study

Hispanic "CITIZENS"? or Hispanic "OCCUPANTS"? BIG DIFFERENCE!

[VeniVidiVici]

Sounds like the Democrat-controlled media have received their latest talking points.

[Cherokeesquaw]

Best news I’ve hear yet today.

[Lorianne]

Exactly. My niece went to collget out of state. In 2008 she voted absentee in her home state. The in November, she accompanied some college friends to vote in her college state and claims she could have voted again with just her student I.D.

[informavoracious]

“Decades of study have found virtually no use of false identification in U.S. elections or voting by non-citizens”

Since in most places no identification is required to vote, how would they know?

[Wiser now]

Ohio. But I could not bring myself to cheat even against Obama. My husband wouldn’t either.

[lacrew]

“It can be discerned, if somebody wants to spend a little money.”

I guess I doubt that the ‘studies’ performed had the funding, or authority to go to all that effort.

And, I reject the notion that fraud on a large scale has to be proven, before it can be addressed. I’ve never had my house broken into; yet, I still bought a lock to put on the front door.

Anyway, I’ll rephrase....Voter fraud is difficult and costly to detect; and, I doubt the studies that have been done are complete enought to discern whether or not we have large scale voter fraud.

[wrencher]

“With the advent of computers and technology it would take some effort but programs could be set up to cross reference items such as death certificates, felony convictions, driver license changes, marriage/divorces, etc. against voter roles. This should be an ongoing process today where the above type info is sent directly to the voter registrar for checking.”

True, they could probably tie it in with the traffic camera systems and facial recognition software, perhaps considering the bundle of RFID signatures you walk about with a sufficiently unique identifier too. The drones should be able handle it given enough bandwidth........

[Liz]

As Mexico pushes north---salivating to takeover the SW--- they finance their fifth column invasion of US borders. The wailing and whining invaders-----"we just here for here for better life to do jobs Americanos won't do"---really gets to the bleeding heart sap-happy liberals.

The latino criminal underworld on US soil has more criminal enterprises than you can shake a stick at.

<><>ICE's "documents and benefits fraud task force" found a common practice among "impoverished" illegals is to buy several faked identities for several thousand dollars each----the illegal then votes and rides the US gravy train under several names.

<><> Jose Madrigal---the Washington state rapist---had some 30 identities. And probably voted and collected US benefits under every single identity.

<><>June 26, 2010 An illegal using multiple identities was sentenced to prison and ordered to pay back $3 million in fraudulently obtained unemployment compensation. Manuel Mejia Ordonez, got eight years for conspiracy to commit mail fraud........and identity theft.

<><> Hilderberto Salinas sold state drivers' licenses issued out of the state’s Motor Vehicle Agency in NJ to illegals with multiple identities who did not have the necessary id's....among 40 people who participated in the widespread ring. "Impoverished" illegals paid $2,500 to $7,000 apiece for the licenses.

<><> July 21, 2006----NJ BERGEN RECORD---Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, NJ L/E authorities said. The Texas brothers were a "one-stop shop" for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver's licenses----for any state in the US------ passports and resident alien cards, said state police.

The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout.

After a search, police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs.

All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to "impoverished illegals." Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####

<><> US Dept of the Treasury Says Illegal Aliens Collecting Billions in Tax Credits According to the US Dept of Treasury’s Inspector General, more than $4.2 billion in additional child credits were paid out in 2010 to illegal immigrants. In 2005, the pay outs totaled $924 million. This program allows low income earners to claim a $1,000 per child credit. $20 billion EITC is estimated to have been paid out to these cunning "impoverished" illegals. Most of them are collecting over and over again-----using multiple identities-----falsifying official apps---claiming children they do not have and/or falsely stating kids are back in their homelands.

REFERENCE March 8, 2012 KENNER, La. -- Kenner police arrested illegal Marvin Baca who sold false W-2 forms to another illegal immigrant for $1,500. Baca sold fraudulent W-2 forms for $1,500 to other Hispanics here illegally.

Police said that on one of the forged W-2 forms had a SS no of a person living in Virginia. Police said illegal Hispanics purchase fictitious W-2 forms and file false tax returns with the government to receive EITC refunds. Baca was charged with one count of ID theft and two counts of forgery.

[moehoward]

Provisional Ballot, and they become un-disenfranchised.

[Liz]

Viscious Mexican gangs and drug cartels are said to operate freely across the border in Austin---the Texas state capital---right under the noses of the pols. Read on.

EDITED Zeta hit man details killings on both sides of border mySA.com | January 24, 2012 | Jason Buch / FR Posted by SwinneySwitch

LAREDO, TEXAS — A hit man for the Zetas Mexican drug cartel calmly related to jurors in a drug conspiracy trial---to his role as a hired killer.

In US District Court. Rosalio Reta pointed to Gerardo Castillo Chavez, 25, and identified him as a fellow Zeta. Reta, 22, told jurors that he had been in a team of hit men headed by Gabriel Cardona, an admitted Zeta, who has pleaded guilty to five murders that occurred in Texas 2005-06.

Reta said he was the triggerman in the murder of Moises Garcia, a Mexican Mafia prison gang member, in Dec 2005.

Reta, a U.S. citizen, received national media attention after the teenager was deported from Mexico in 2006 at age 17. He's known for his distinctive facial tattoos and boasts that he became a killer when he was 13 years old.

Prosecutors say Castillo Chavez was also a sicario, or hit man, in a crew that worked with Cardona's group, gunning down two people at a busy Laredo, Texas intersection in April 2006.

He faces up to life in prison if convicted on firearms and racketeering charges and wide-ranging drug conspiracy charges; prosecutors presented evidence of a decade's worth of Zeta operations in Texas.

Reta said that he fled to Mexico after two murders in Texas, for which he's now serving 70 years in prison, and worked with Castillo Chavez.” In May 2006, Reta testified, a team of killers was dispatched to El Punto Vivo, a nightclub in a suburb of Monterrey, Mexico.

“Hitmen Chema and Chavezs went into the bar,” Reta said. “They shot, they threw some grenades and they killed four people.”

Afterward, the hit squad went to a convenience store for snacks and drinks. Prosecutors played security video showing Reta and three others making purchases.

Jurors also heard Laredo police detective Robert Garcia testify that he linked the sicarios using phone records.

The big break came when an insider---a DEA informant---was tasked by the Zetas with renting a safe house for Cardona's crew. Garcia said he worked with the feds to thwart the Zetas' attempted hits and to gather evidence.

Defense attorneys questioned Reta as to why someone who had shown great care to hideout after killings in the U.S. would so brazenly hang out at a convenience store, even microwave popcorn, after committing a high-profile killing in Mexico.

“In Mexico, the cartels run everything,” Reta replied. “So it doesn't matter if you get caught on video. We are the law over there.

Rosalio Reta.