Posted on 09/21/2012 6:51:52 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Youve no doubt heard what Mitt Romney was captured on video saying to a group of potential donors to his campaign.
Many are pillorying Romney for saying this, a few are defending him. But both his detractors and his defenders are missing what is really wrong with this statement: it ignores the role of ideasparticularly of moral ideas.
Romney implies that people vote their pocketbooks, that people vote based only on their immediate financial interest, as they conceive it. But the majority of people simply do not behave in this way. In presidential elections, the majority vote according to what they think is right.
And Romneys problem lies with the twisted notion of right that has been successfully promulgated by our opinion-leaders. The whole weight of todays intellectual Establishment is behind the belief that Romney complains of: that people are morally entitled to be taken care of by the government.
So, why talk about just the non-taxpayers ideas on entitlements: what do you think 95% of Harvard professors and the editorial board of the New York Times believe? Do Warren Buffett or George Sorosor Bill Gates for that matterthink otherwise?
By focusing on income not ideas, Romney insulted almost half of Americans, implying that they have no integritythat they place cash above principle. That insult reflects a Marxist view of man: the absurd notion that mens ideas count for nothing and that their actions are determinstically governed by their economic class. Romney has been criticized for engaging in class-warfare, and that is half-correct. Although he does talk about what people believe, he implies that they believe it only because they want the stream of loot to continue flowing their way.
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1) man exists for his own sake and not as a sacrificial animal that exists for the sake of others
2) a man is the proper beneficiary of his own action.
Indeed, absurd.
However, the reverse is true: ideas have pervasive consequences, and economic class is near unto a deterministic outcome of their actions.
And THAT is what Romney was getting at.
Exactly, “I’m gonna get me some of that obama stash. He gonna gib it to me.”
As for this: “In presidential elections, the majority vote according to what they think is right.”
Horseshit.
On the other hand, he did paint some probably god people with a very broad and probably undeserved black brush. The application to the label of dependent to 47% as all being in the entitlement class is wrong. There are some good people in the lower tax brackets who are just following the foolish tax law allowances and exclusions given by Bush II. Having so many people tax exempt was a bad idea then and a terrible idea now.
There are also people Romney branded as part of the entitlement class who are collecting SS benefits they did contribute to. It is not their responsibility that the program was managed terribly. It is our fault if we allow this foolishness to continue.
Maybe once upon a time people voted for those who uphold the principles of the Constitution but those days are long gone. Nearly half vote for the person who gives them the most of what the other half have worked for. They out breed the working class and they will out number the working class soon. Game over unless the “right” to raid the treasury of the working class is somehow ended.
The moochers are not ashamed, they think you should give
them even more. Ever seen that EBT Card rap? They are
proud that they get stuff working people have to pay for.
That class think you are stupid for working.
Whoever Harry Binswanger is, he is also a fool and a liar.
He must be a Democrat.
I hope your mother is factoring in some rate of return into her calculation and isn’t just going to stop when the amount of money received is equal to the total amount paid in. Historically, a broad-based portfolio of stocks is expected to return around 8% (and, yes this is factoring in stock market declines. It even holds true for periods that include the stock market crash preceding the Great Depression).
To be more concrete, suppose your father paid a constant amount into SS for 40 years. Using an 8% rate of return, your mother is entitled to claim just over 258 times that amout before she’s exhausted what your father paid into the system. So, if he paid say $2000 per year in for 40 years, rather than $80000, your mother would actually be entitled to claim $516,000. Quite a bit of difference!
BTW, that gives you a better idea of just how much the FICA tax REALLY costs!
Bottom line the majority of those people are going to vote for the guy who promises to keep the checks coming without cuts to the program.
This is a reality and Romney at least recognizes it.
Romney’s was a materialist’s argument—that people are always going to vote by their pocketbook, so those receiving money for the government will not vote for someone like him, who would like to at least slow down the gravy train.
His underlying assumption about human motivation is Marxian, even though he was advocating a free economy.
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